[Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.4.0a1 released
Is this series targeting Python 2.5? Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Any Word On When Zope 3 Will Support Python 2.5
Mark, Jonathan (Integic) wrote: I prefer to do all of my Python development in Python 2.5. Is there any word on when Zope 3 will support the current version of Python? Read the other replies and it translates not any time soon. : ) Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Any Word On When Zope 3 Will Support Python 2.5
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Robert Hicks wrote: Mark, Jonathan (Integic) wrote: I prefer to do all of my Python development in Python 2.5. Is there any word on when Zope 3 will support the current version of Python? Read the other replies and it translates not any time soon. : ) This may be true for some definition of soon. However, we're very happy that a student has applied for a GSoC project dealing with this issue. So hopefully after this summer (~August) Python 2.5 will be supported. I would say that (~August) would be justified as not any time soon. That said, I didn't mean for it to be an indefinite time and I am glad a project in GSoC is facilitating it. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Zope3 with RDBMS (avoiding ZODB)?
Laurence Rowe wrote: There is no need to use an object-relational mapper, but you will want to use a database adapter so that RDBMS transactions get tied into Zope's transactions. I think that means http://cvs.zope.org/zopeproducts/oracleda/ for Oracle. What about this one: http://www.zope.org/Members/dobe/cxoracleda ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Zope3 with RDBMS (avoiding ZODB)?
David Johnson wrote: Now, where should we start with it in Zope3 to connect it to an RDBMS? We do mostly SQL/RDBMS. We have tried ZAlchmey, and SQLOs, but we find them both a bit limiting and simultaneous complex to get them to work they way we wanted. In general when one develops and RDBMS application of any size, the database structure can get very complex. In order to integrate them into Zope 3 just right, it's best to manually code the containers and objects. We have been able to simplify the process quite a bit and we are very happy with it. It's amazing scalable.If you do decide to go this way, I would be glad to share our RBDMS package and procedures. We've developed some guidelines to improve development. We use MySQL exclusively. Do I take this to mean you are just using SQL and not any integrated Z3 solution? I ask because I have Oracle databases at work and would like to try Z3 out with that. I have no problem doing my own SQL (I kind of prefer it). Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Zope3 groups and such
Are there any meetings in Virginia or round abouts? Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Book?
Is Web Component Development with Zope 3 the best resource to get up to speed on using Zope3? I will be spending a little time getting up to speed on Python itself (with Chun's book) as well. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Book?
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19 Feb 2007, at 00:56, Robert Hicks wrote: Is Web Component Development with Zope 3 the best resource to get up to speed on using Zope3? I will be spending a little time getting up to speed on Python itself (with Chun's book) as well. I think it is. Make sure you get the second edition, which is current. jens Will do! Thank you very much. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Configure.zcml In Hello World Video On WorldCookery.Com Doesn't Work
Mark, Jonathan (Integic) wrote: Here is my configure.zcml file, which is identical to the one Paul Everitt says to write: configure xmlns=http://namespaces.zope.org/browser; page name=hello template=helloworld.html for=zope.app.container.interfaces.Icontainer permission=zope.Public / /configure XML is case sensitive Icontainer should be IContainer... Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Configure.zcml In Hello World Video On WorldCookery.Com Doesn't Work
Jürgen Kartnaller wrote: Robert Hicks wrote: Mark, Jonathan (Integic) wrote: Here is my configure.zcml file, which is identical to the one Paul Everitt says to write: configure xmlns=http://namespaces.zope.org/browser; page name=hello template=helloworld.html for=zope.app.container.interfaces.Icontainer permission=zope.Public / /configure XML is case sensitive Icontainer should be IContainer... It's not XML that is case sensitive, it is python ! You get the same error if you try to import Icontainer in python (what the zcml directive is actually doing). Jürgen That makes sense. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Jegenye 2001 Bt (Miklós Prisznyák) wrote: 2007/1/14, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zope 3.3.1 was released today. Unfortunately I cannot access wiki.zope.org right now to get you the release link. http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/Zope331 However there's no downloadable for v3.3.1 at http://zope.org/Products/Zope3 yet at the moment. It seems they've found a failing test so probably that's why. It must have been something fierce as it still isn't up yet. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Jegenye 2001 Bt (Miklós Prisznyák) wrote: 2007/1/14, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zope 3.3.1 was released today. Unfortunately I cannot access wiki.zope.org right now to get you the release link. http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/Zope331 However there's no downloadable for v3.3.1 at http://zope.org/Products/Zope3 yet at the moment. It seems they've found a failing test so probably that's why. Oh, but that means it is close. : ) Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Zope 3.3.1
I read on the wiki that 3.3.1 is Delayed for a while. Can anyone in the know define a while? I know the Python 2.4.4 fix is in there and I really would like to get it on my OSX box so I can play with it (evaluation for work). Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: zope 3.3 on windows can't create pages
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Robert Hicks wrote: Any ideas when a 2.4.4 version will be out? That will be Zope 3.3.1 and that should happen until early January 07. Christian Thanks Christian. Do you know when Python 2.5 will be supported? I just received a shiny iMac and I am waffling between putting 2.4.4 or 2.5 on it. One of the things I am waffling on is I would really like to play with Zope. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: zope 3.3 on windows can't create pages
Benji York wrote: Robert Hicks wrote: Do you know when Python 2.5 will be supported? It will probably be a while. 2.5 includes some changes that will require some of Zope's security machinery to be updated. Oh I see. I just received a shiny iMac and I am waffling between putting 2.4.4 or 2.5 on it. Why not install both? I could I guess but I really don't want to mess with 3 Python implementations on my system. I think I will do 2.4.4 for now and put Zope on there when it is updated in January. In looking at the changes in 2.5 it doesn't have anything compelling to me (although I like the unified try/except/finally). When Zope moves up to support 2.5 I will just move everything up to Python 2.5. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: zope 3.3 on windows can't create pages
Dominique Lederer wrote: Anton schrieb: Adam Groszer wrote: Hello Anton, That's a small incompatibility between python 2.4.4 and Zope 3.3. You can use python 2.4.3 to work around that. The fix for Zope is there but only in the svn yet. Hi Adam, Do you have any hint what file is affected (if its only one or two lines to tweak it would be faster than to reinstall 2.4.3) If its a whole bunch of files, ... then of courxe ... forget it :-) Anton take a look at http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users/2006-October/004742.html and http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/535 cheers Dominique Any ideas when a 2.4.4 version will be out? Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] ZODB explorer?
I have search a bit on GOOGLE and didn't find anything. I was wondering if there was a GUI for ZODB (like TOAD for Oracle or similar)? Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: Problem with Python 2.4.4
Jim Fulton wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 02:00:05PM +0200, Thierry Florac wrote: Le mardi 24 octobre 2006 à 07:51 -0400, Jim Fulton a écrit : Torvald Bringsvor wrote: I have set up Zope 3.3.0 with Python 2.4.4, and it didn't quite work. Some operations such as adding a content object provoked an error from cgi.py line 716, this line reads: line = self.fp.readline(116) and then Python reacts that readline should have max one argument, but it gets two. By correcting it to line = self.fp.readline() everything works well. Have anybody else had this problem? You should report this in the Zope 3 collector, http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev. It looks like Zope's file stream object that it passes to the CGI module needs to grow a maximum size. I had the same problem on Debian GNU/Linux. Problem is due to a security patch applied on cgi.py in Debian's unstable release. I've fixed this bug a couple of weeks ago. It was http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/535 (It's not marked as resolved, because the Zope file stream object discards the maximum size, circumventing the CGI security patch, and that's because Twisted's file stream object doesn't accept a maximum size). I wonder if a newer version of twisted fixes this. I wonder why we aren't using 2.2. Jim So is the answer...wait until Z3 3.3.1? : ) Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: crud/read example?
Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 02 September 2006 12:56, Robert Hicks wrote: Try to be a bit more specific, you'll get more answers that way. Actually I thought the subject was expressive enough. Thanks for the advice though. I agree with Martin. I had to read Philipp's response to remember what crud stood for. For us in the Zope community this is such a non-issue in 98% of the cases, that we are not familiar with this sort of terminology and discussion. That is okay. Sometimes I forget that people have different experiencesin the software arena. I didn't take Martin's response in any way except to mean I need to be more verbose in my questions and not assume stuff like everyone knows what CRUD is. While the ZODB looks like a great example my question should have been: I am using Oracle at work and I am looking into using Z3 as the solution but I was wondering if there was an example of creating a CRUD (Create, Read, Update, Delete) application that is prevelant in Turbogears, Django and the like. The example they use is a wiki application where the add, modify and delete simple wiki entries. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: crud/read example?
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Robert Hicks wrote: While the ZODB looks like a great example my question should have been: I am using Oracle at work Does this imply you *need* or *want* to use it for a web application? If you don't have to, consider alternatives such as Zope's object store (ZODB). That would be subjective I guess. I would *want* to use Oracle since we have an enterprise license for it and that is probably the best way to store the data for posterity. I guess I can use the ZODB and then if I ever have to leave the project or something I could just write a conversion script. and I am looking into using Z3 as the solution Solution to what? but I was wondering if there was an example of creating a CRUD (Create, Read, Update, Delete) application that is prevelant in Turbogears, Django and the like. Well, most of the time we don't think in terms of CRUD, even though we might be doing it. Ah, well I guess I will have to unlearn what I have learned. : ) Zope is about objects. Where these objects come from doesnt' really matter to Zope. They can come from Zope's object store, they can also come from a relational database. Doesn't matter. In Zope you create objects, you modify them and you display them. The example they use is a wiki application where the add, modify and delete simple wiki entries. There's a similar example for Zope 3: http://worldcookery.com/files/jeffshell-todo/ Philipp Cool, thanks for the info. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: crud/read example?
Martin Aspeli wrote: Robert Hicks wrote: I was just wondering... ... how to phrase your question and you couldn't decide? Try to be a bit more specific, you'll get more answers that way. Martin Actually I thought the subject was expressive enough. Thanks for the advice though. Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] crud/read example?
I was just wondering... Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Why Zope3
I am looking into the Python arena for some in-house web work. I see Turbogears, Django and Zope3 mentioned the most. I am interested in knowing what Zope3 brings to the table and how well it plays with Oracle (9i). Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. :Robert ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
