Re: [Zope] Simple high-level question - mabye about WEBDAV?
Steve wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: How does it not work? I enter an URL which would render the index_html method as a Network Place and all I get is an error message: Getting Zope's WebDAV serving to work with M$ WebFolder is deep voodoo :-( cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Simple high-level question - mabye about WEBDAV?
Chris McDonough wrote: How does it not work? I enter an URL which would render the index_html method as a Network Place and all I get is an error message: The folder you entered does not appear to be valid. Please choose another. Webfolders doesn't allow setting permissions on folders or files on a share. You'll need to do this through Zope's security interface via a browser. I assumed as much... if I can find a product (or other pre-cooked near-solution) for this then that would be great. :-) I suspect the situation is this: you will likely need a need a content management or a fat client or both if you want users to be able to manage security via a normal (nothing really normal about it, IMO, but...) Explorer window. I don't absolutely need an explorer window - but a drag-n-drop interface is desirable - and Windows it the most likely remote OS. Zope has a completely different security model than either UNIX or Windows, so something needs to map its notion of security to the client's. Plain-old-webfolders won't help here. Fair enough - though I will need to manage this aspect of the solution somehow. I wonder why you don't just use a Windows share here? What does Zope give you that it wouldn't in this case? There are several reasons I don't want to use a windows shared folder... including: * I need to support access to the web-share through corporate web-proxies which only allow HTTP/HTTPS access to the outside world. * Access to the web-share should be supported even from non-MS platforms. * No need to expose a Windows/SAMBA port to the internet at large (including the myriad security issues that would incur.) * Administration only necessary for users of the portal - no separate system for users of the web-drive. * No need to install software on remote sites to access a private virtual network. I'm sure there are other advantages too... Steve ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Simple high-level question - mabye about WEBDAV?
I am looking to extend a zope portal to allow authenticated users to upload/download files... the idea being to support a shared drive containing various files available over HTTPS and available anywhere there is web-access. Ideally this notional 'web-drive' should be accessible using Windows Web Folders -but I'd also like for it to support ACL-style permissions with respect to file-access by other authenticated users. Are there any products which already address this requirement? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Simple high-level question - mabye about WEBDAV?
Take a look at Plone Desktop from enfold systems... On Sep 14, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Steve wrote: I am looking to extend a zope portal to allow authenticated users to upload/download files... the idea being to support a shared drive containing various files available over HTTPS and available anywhere there is web-access. Ideally this notional 'web-drive' should be accessible using Windows Web Folders -but I'd also like for it to support ACL-style permissions with respect to file-access by other authenticated users. Are there any products which already address this requirement? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Simple high-level question - mabye about WEBDAV?
OK, well, Zope works out of the box with DAV clients, so... (and please keep conversations on the list)... - C On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Steve wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: Take a look at Plone Desktop from enfold systems... Thanks for the suggestion... that's interesting, but far more involved than what I'm aiming for... For example, I definitely don't want to require any special client software, and a big feature of the Plone Desktop seems to be integration with the Win32 file-system - whereas I don't need that per-se... any user-friendly UI would suit me just fine. I guess I might have better described that I what this to be a bit like an https based ftp-site with file uploads and downloads etc... a simple, secure mechanism for exchange of arbitrary files between users of the portal... I don't really need or want content-management per- se Steve ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Simple high-level question - mabye about WEBDAV?
Chris McDonough wrote: OK, well, Zope works out of the box with DAV clients, so... I've read that too... but (maybe I'm just being dumb here) I can't connect to my zope server via the Add Network Place wizard just by specifying a URL for my zope-server which my web-browser accesses fine. Can you point me at a how-to? How does this integrate with permissions? Will I need a web-based interaction to set-up ACLs for files? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Simple high-level question - mabye about WEBDAV?
How does it not work? Webfolders doesn't allow setting permissions on folders or files on a share. You'll need to do this through Zope's security interface via a browser. I suspect the situation is this: you will likely need a need a content management or a fat client or both if you want users to be able to manage security via a normal (nothing really normal about it, IMO, but...) Explorer window. Zope has a completely different security model than either UNIX or Windows, so something needs to map its notion of security to the client's. Plain-old-webfolders won't help here. I wonder why you don't just use a Windows share here? What does Zope give you that it wouldn't in this case? - C On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Steve wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: OK, well, Zope works out of the box with DAV clients, so... I've read that too... but (maybe I'm just being dumb here) I can't connect to my zope server via the Add Network Place wizard just by specifying a URL for my zope-server which my web-browser accesses fine. Can you point me at a how-to? How does this integrate with permissions? Will I need a web-based interaction to set-up ACLs for files? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
