Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-06 Thread Sareesh Sudhakaran
Thank you all for your replies. I have an idea on how to begin: I'll go with mySQL and see how it works out. I will use both PHP and Python for the prototype. My issue no longer fits within the scope of this mailing list. Without your support it would have been impossible for me to get started

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 06:12, Sareesh Sudhakaran wrote: > I have a personal project - a web application I wanted to develop - but I'm > confused on which route to take. I am not under any time constraint. Your case is complex and the answer is non-obvious. I think you will have to try to see. >

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-05 Thread John Schinnerer
big range of solutions to try > out :) > > If you have time, then the simple approach > > zpt page -> (one) Python Script -> (some) ZSQL Methods -> MySQL database > > might be a good starting point. You should not need to spend much time > to implement

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-05 Thread Fernando
On Dec 5, 2011 10:25 "Niels Dettenbach" wrote: > From my experience developing within Zope / ZODB (with Python, DTML > and/or ZPT) allows very high quality products within very short > timeframes and even further maintaining the project is relative > ressource efficient - especially compared to P

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-05 Thread Niels Dettenbach
Am Montag, 5. Dezember 2011, 11:37:46 schrieb Sareesh Sudhakaran: > But I'm restricted by hosting options for Zope at the moment, and will > revert to Python once the project is deployed - and when I figure out > whether mySQL is good enough or not. I hate having to type all those extra > character

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-05 Thread Sareesh Sudhakaran
n php though.sareesh > From: n...@syndicat.com > To: ays...@hotmail.com; zope@zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App > Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:25:18 +0100 > > Am Sonntag, 4. Dezember 2011, 16:15:13 schrieben Sie: > > As you mentioned, if

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-05 Thread Fernando
On Dec 5, 2011 09:48 "John Schinnerer" wrote: > On 12/04/2011 09:56 PM, Fernando Martins wrote: > > On 12/04/2011 09:31 PM, John Schinnerer wrote: > > > In any case, this looks (to me anyhow) like a very object-oriented > > > system you are modeling so an object oriented approach and > > > langua

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-05 Thread Niels Dettenbach
Am Sonntag, 4. Dezember 2011, 16:15:13 schrieben Sie: > As you mentioned, if I have to use mySQL, isn't it better for me to go with > PHP+mySQL - easier to learn and deploy? ...just from my experience: PHP is - for different, but mainly technical/historical reasons - very widely spread within we

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-05 Thread John Schinnerer
On 12/04/2011 09:56 PM, Fernando Martins wrote: On 12/04/2011 09:31 PM, John Schinnerer wrote: In any case, this looks (to me anyhow) like a very object-oriented system you are modeling so an object oriented approach and language would seem most suitable. And how would you create (and update)

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-04 Thread Fernando Martins
On 12/04/2011 09:31 PM, John Schinnerer wrote: In any case, this looks (to me anyhow) like a very object-oriented system you are modeling so an object oriented approach and language would seem most suitable. And how would you create (and update) objects in Python for: "at least 500 tools as o

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-04 Thread Sareesh Sudhakaran
pport. Appreciate it! - Sareesh Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 18:19:25 +0100 From: ferna...@cmartins.nl To: ays...@hotmail.com CC: n...@syndicat.com; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App On 12/04/2011 05:15 PM, Sareesh Sudhakaran

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-04 Thread John Schinnerer
Aloha, Very briefly, from what you describe, it looks like you are dealing with large numbers of complex objects (your 'tools') that interact with each other - and with some other elements that are going through this workflow process? And a context for the process? ...not sure of that part...

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-04 Thread Fernando Martins
On 12/04/2011 05:15 PM, Sareesh Sudhakaran wrote: As you mentioned, if I have to use mySQL, isn't it better for me to go with PHP+mySQL - easier to learn and deploy? Can I just start out with a framework like Symphony instead? Well, if all you have is PHP + MySQL in your provider, there is no

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-04 Thread Sareesh Sudhakaran
asiest and most obvious. Is this a viable starting point compared to what you have suggested? Or am I missing something? -Sareesh Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 13:28:36 +0100 From: ferna...@cmartins.nl To: ays...@hotmail.com CC: n...@syndicat.com; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Help in deciding appr

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-04 Thread Fernando Martins
On 12/04/2011 09:52 AM, Sareesh Sudhakaran wrote: Thanks Niels. Just to clarify: Does my particular instance fall under an OODBMS model or a RDBMS model (with ORM if necessary)? Data modelling is a bit of an art and probably you could tackle your problem with any approach. I think the import

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-04 Thread Sareesh Sudhakaran
Thanks Niels. Just to clarify:Does my particular instance fall under an OODBMS model or a RDBMS model (with ORM if necessary)? I will begin by reading the Zope Book. Thanks for your assistance. Appreciate it. -ss > Subject: Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App > F

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-04 Thread Sareesh Sudhakaran
help? I have no idea on where to start with Graph DB - I've read the wikis and it's made me more confused. -ss > Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 08:40:28 +0100 > From: li...@zopyx.com > To: ays...@hotmail.com > CC: zope@zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to We

Re: [Zope] Help in deciding approach to Web App

2011-12-03 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - From reading: your database model appears pretty much relational. Where would you take advantages from using Zope as framework? This sounds like a task for Pyramid + RDBMS or a graph DB. - -aj Sareesh Sudhakaran wrote: > I have a personal project -