Re: [Zopeskel] Plone 4 templates for ZopeSkel
On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Clayton Parker wrote: >> >> At any rate, does anyone have the time to help add new or alter existing >> buildout and theme templates to support plone4 in a more explicit way? > > > Do you want to move forward with making the installer based and zopeskel > based buildouts match up? That shouldn't take too long and it is something > that I could tackle. > I'd really like to do that for a new plone4_buildout recipe. It'd be nice to have it for plone3_buildout as well, if possible. If you have any time, I'd welcome the help :) > Clayton Thanks c Cris Ewing Webmaster, Lead Developer Department of Radiology Web Services University of Washington School of Medicine Work Phone: (206) 616-1288 Cell Phone: (206) 708-9083 E-mail: cew...@u.washington.edu Web: http://www.rad.washington.edu *** ___ ZopeSkel mailing list ZopeSkel@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/zopeskel
Re: [Zopeskel] Plone 4 templates for ZopeSkel
On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Cristopher Ewing wrote: > On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Clayton Parker wrote: > > That's sort of the way it works right now. Given the number of significant > differences, and given our desire to keep the zopeskel plone4 buildout > stylistically aligned with the buildout used in the installers, I'm inclined > to disagree with making them all work off of one template. The logic in the > template for plone3_buildout is already pretty twisted, needing to support > eggified and non-eggified zope, eggified and non-eggified Plone and several > other branch points. I'm inclined to think that maintaining more--but less > complicated--templates is easier. The conditions between 3.2+ -> 4 aren't that bad. But it is true that handling from 3.0 all the way to current can get hairy. Maybe it is best to keep the templates separated out, explicit is better than implicit :) > At any rate, does anyone have the time to help add new or alter existing > buildout and theme templates to support plone4 in a more explicit way? Do you want to move forward with making the installer based and zopeskel based buildouts match up? That shouldn't take too long and it is something that I could tackle. Clayton -- Six Feet Up, Inc. | Sponsor of Plone Conference 2010 (Oct. 25th-31st) Direct Line: +1 (317) 861-5948 x603 Email: clay...@sixfeetup.com Try Plone 4 Today at: http://plone4demo.com How am I doing? Please contact my manager Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker at gabrie...@sixfeetup.com with any feedback. ___ ZopeSkel mailing list ZopeSkel@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/zopeskel
Re: [Zopeskel] Plone 4 templates for ZopeSkel
On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Clayton Parker wrote: >> IIRC, the latest versions of plone3_buildout will take any (I guess) >> version of Plone when it asks. I've made Plone 4 buildouts with it a >> bunch of times over the past year. > > I've done something similar for our internal buildout setup. It accepts 3.3.x > and 4.x versions. Just takes a few conditions to make everything work > properly. > The number of conditions needed to keep it working for all versions from 3.0 up to the current 4.x releases is quickly growing unwieldy. The plone3_buildout template currently doesn't include anything that would help users to properly set up blob support. >> Maybe the plone3_buildout template needs to be renamed? > > +1 I'm a little leery of this, given that we've established a pattern of naming buildout templates according to the versions of plone supported. This would certainly be the shortest route to filling the current need, but it's a sub-optimal solution for the long-run. Then again, the long run lies in templer, not in zopeskel as it currently exists, so perhaps the short and easy solution is best for now. > >> Is there even a >> template for a pre-3.0 buildout? Yes, there is a plone25_buildout recipe. >> >> IMHO, any Plone buildouts should be rolled into one template class, and >> process differently depending on what version the user wants to use. > > +1 That's sort of the way it works right now. Given the number of significant differences, and given our desire to keep the zopeskel plone4 buildout stylistically aligned with the buildout used in the installers, I'm inclined to disagree with making them all work off of one template. The logic in the template for plone3_buildout is already pretty twisted, needing to support eggified and non-eggified zope, eggified and non-eggified Plone and several other branch points. I'm inclined to think that maintaining more--but less complicated--templates is easier. At any rate, does anyone have the time to help add new or alter existing buildout and theme templates to support plone4 in a more explicit way? c Cris Ewing Webmaster, Lead Developer Department of Radiology Web Services University of Washington School of Medicine Work Phone: (206) 616-1288 Cell Phone: (206) 708-9083 E-mail: cew...@u.washington.edu Web: http://www.rad.washington.edu *** ___ ZopeSkel mailing list ZopeSkel@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/zopeskel
Re: [Zopeskel] Plone 4 templates for ZopeSkel
On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Josh Johnson wrote: > On 11/15/2010 01:17 PM, Cristopher Ewing wrote: >> contribute new templates. I'm thinking we need at least the following: >> >> plone4_buildout >> plone4_theme >> >> We may also need modifications to the archetypes recipe to cover issues > > IIRC, the latest versions of plone3_buildout will take any (I guess) > version of Plone when it asks. I've made Plone 4 buildouts with it a > bunch of times over the past year. I've done something similar for our internal buildout setup. It accepts 3.3.x and 4.x versions. Just takes a few conditions to make everything work properly. > Maybe the plone3_buildout template needs to be renamed? +1 > Is there even a > template for a pre-3.0 buildout? > > IMHO, any Plone buildouts should be rolled into one template class, and > process differently depending on what version the user wants to use. +1 Clayton -- Six Feet Up, Inc. | Sponsor of Plone Conference 2010 (Oct. 25th-31st) Direct Line: +1 (317) 861-5948 x603 Email: clay...@sixfeetup.com Try Plone 4 Today at: http://plone4demo.com How am I doing? Please contact my manager Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker at gabrie...@sixfeetup.com with any feedback. ___ ZopeSkel mailing list ZopeSkel@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/zopeskel
Re: [Zopeskel] Plone 4 templates for ZopeSkel
On 11/15/2010 01:17 PM, Cristopher Ewing wrote: > contribute new templates. I'm thinking we need at least the following: > > plone4_buildout > plone4_theme > > We may also need modifications to the archetypes recipe to cover issues IIRC, the latest versions of plone3_buildout will take any (I guess) version of Plone when it asks. I've made Plone 4 buildouts with it a bunch of times over the past year. Maybe the plone3_buildout template needs to be renamed? Is there even a template for a pre-3.0 buildout? IMHO, any Plone buildouts should be rolled into one template class, and process differently depending on what version the user wants to use. JJ -- Josh Johnson Applications Analyst Lineberger Comprehensive Cancer Center University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (919) 923-0894 ___ ZopeSkel mailing list ZopeSkel@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/zopeskel
