>Industry experience suggests that it is not possible to get *anything* 
>right the first time.  I hope that's not a reason for never doing 
>anything new.

Touch?

>> I very much like the fact that SMF allows me to disable a service once and 
>> for all; it's too bad that some services conspire to remove that big 
>> advantage by reenabling themselves each upgrade (webconsole)
>
>I can't say that I've encountered that particular problem, but it 
>doesn't surprise me.  Getting upgrades right is pretty hard, and doesn't 
>get nearly enough attention.  File CRs.
>
>... and is it worse under SMF, or under traditional models?  If you 
>delete somebody's rc*.d file it kills them for now, but is almost 
>certainly undone on upgrade.

No, but the entire point of SMF was to fix that.   That software seems to 
consistently work around that is a serious problem (in developer 
documentation and testing, probably, more than anything else).

While the points about configuration are all well taken, we're not 
anywhere near that point with SMF.

And, unfortunately, I don't see how we're going to get there anytime soon
because it's completely NOT under our control unless we also extend
configuration control to traditional configuration files.

Casper


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