Nobody needs to investigate, this is not how it has been done in other 3 RIRs (one pending of implementation). This has been explained thousands of times in previous proposals.
1) You must have a standard way to send the report to the resource holder, not using a form. Up to now this has been done in other RIRs by email. 2) If the resource holder don’t take an action, or the reporting standard way doesn’t work, you can escalate to the RIR, so they look for lack of compliance because a) the reporting is not working, b) is ignored, c) alternative non-standard reporting is enforced. 3) Lack of compliance, if not resolved, can enact a reclamation procedure. If the RIR believes (for example), a DDOS or spam are legal, then the problems is out of the hands of the RIR, and is up to each jurisdiction if the reporter can take legal actions, or filter them or even blame them publicly so others also filter them, or whatever. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet > El 31 jul 2026, a las 17:45, Leo Vegoda <[email protected]> escribió: > > On 31 Jul 2026, at 13:08, denis walker <[email protected]> wrote: > > […] > >> The rules of the game are set by policy. Policy is set by the RIPE >> community. It only takes a handful of people saying yes and the rules are >> changed. Then ALL resource holders, LIRs, End Users MUST obey the new rules. >> If you persistently break the rules you can be closed down and have >> resources taken away. To me, that sounds like a definition of absolute >> authority. >> >> But let's get to the core of your issue here. Do you have a problem with >> limiting malicious abusive behaviour on the Internet? Or are you just >> arguing over any point to slow the process down and ultimately prevent any >> policy from addressing this problem? >> >> EVERY time we have looked at this issue over the last couple of decades, >> 'someone' creates background noise, finds problems, develops arguments >> against and ultimately prevents any action from being taken. A couple of >> people even said it in this thread. This WG has a reputation for not taking >> action. This has to change. That's why I'm suggesting a very simple policy. >> Here's a list of bad things. You must not do these. Do you have a problem >> with this? > > Who would investigate claims? Who would judge? > > The RIPE NCC has a good structure for handing things out when conditions are > met. But taking them away is much more challenging and expensive. > > Even if a policy proposal along these lines was accepted, implementation > would probably require higher fees, which might be a challenge. > > Regards, > > Leo > ----- > To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, > please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/security-wg.ripe.net/ > As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with the > email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. > More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
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