Hi Vladimir,
I'm still not convinced - just because a page is important, doesn't mean
that a person's *relationship* to it is important. For instance, the person
could be editing the page just to fix a typo - it doesn't mean that they
now want to monitor it.
That's just my current opinion, and I'm open to counter-arguments, by you
or others.
-Yaron
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Vladimir Kostyukov <
vladimir.kostu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Yaron,
>
> Thanks for such a fast reply! Regarding pages watching.You are right about
> default MediaWiki settings, there is no property (variable) to make "watch
> this page" checkbox checked by default. That is why, I've decided to make
> this patch.
>
> Here is my case.
>
> There are several *very important* pages/forms in my wiki (actually kind
> of corporate system) and I had to make "watch this page" checkbox for these
> pages/forms checked by default. Again, it is because, these pages/forms are
> very important (like a killer feature of site, like a key entity). For
> example, I have a MediaWiki-based system with data about rock bands, than
> template "Rock Band" and form "Form:Rock Band" are *main entities* in my
> system. Other entities, such as "Album", "Song", "Person", etc. Not such
> important for my goals. In this case, it'd be really useful to have a way
> make my mains entities checkbox checked by default. Its really important to
> users and to maintainers to watch this pages/forms.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vladimir,
>>
>> Thanks for this patch. In theory, this sounds reasonable - and the code
>> you created looks fine. My one concern is that, as far as I know, currently
>> in MediaWiki the "watch this page" checkbox is never checked by default -
>> except in special cases like that the user is creating a new page; and even
>> for those cases, the user can decide not to have it checked by default, by
>> changing their preferences. So I'm worried that this could break an
>> expectation on the part of users that some page they decided to edit won't
>> get added to their watchlist. Which is not a major concern, but it might be
>> worth something.
>>
>> Could you explain why you want that checkbox checked on some forms?
>>
>> -Yaron
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Vladimir Kostyukov <
>> vladimir.kostu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Yaron, Stephan and everyone!
>>>
>>> I've just written simple patch, witch adds support of "default" tag for
>>> standard input checkboxes (minor changes, watch). You can found it attached.
>>>
>>> Here is my motivation.
>>>
>>> In my project, where I use SMW/SF, I had to mark standard input "watch"
>>> checkbox as "checked" by default for several forms (*not for all forms*).
>>> I've decided to write something like that (regarding standard checkbox
>>> usage):
>>>
>>> {{{standard input|watch|default=yes}}}
>>>
>>> But, It didn't work for me! I looked into sources, and figured out, that
>>> "default" tag is ignored. Than I've decided to implement this feature. I
>>> think its very useful, to have a way set "watch" or "minor edit" default
>>> value for *separated form*.
>>>
>>> What do you thing about this feature?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vladimir Kostyukov
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Vladimir Kostyukov
>
>
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