Hi Yaron,
It's great! Is it possible to see the diff somwhere? Please, send me link
when it'll be ready.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Okay, the code is now checked in to Git (which is where SF is now, as of a
> few days ago). And I'm pleased to say that I'm finally able to check code
> in to the new system.
>
> -Yaron
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vladimir,
>>
>> Sorry about the delay, and thanks again for the patch. All my
>> development work has basically been on hold: the discoursedb.org
>> server, from where I do all my check-ins, was down for a while, and
>> then all the code got transferred to another server, after which I
>> still wasn't able to check in code, and now all my extensions
>> (including SF) are set to be transferred to Git... anyway, I have a
>> bunch of code now that's waiting to be checked in, including this
>> patch - I hope to do that in the next few weeks, at the latest.
>>
>> -Yaron
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Vladimir Kostyukov
>> <vladimir.kostu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Yaron,
>> >
>> > How its going with my patch?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Vladimir Kostyukov
>> > <vladimir.kostu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Yaron,
>> >>
>> >> I've changed my patch according to your suggestions. You can find it
>> >> attached.
>> >>
>> >> Actually, I added support of default tag to "minor edits" just because
>> it
>> >> was very simple and free. Probably you are right, users will never
>> want to
>> >> make it checked by default.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> First of all, it looks like we're just talking about the "watch this
>> >>> page" checkbox now - there doesn't seem to be any demand, or strong
>> >>> rationale, for having the "minor edit" checkbox ever checked by
>> default.
>> >>>
>> >>> Given that - with these additional explanations, I think I've been
>> >>> convinced. So, how about having this just for the "watch" standard
>> input,
>> >>> and having the parameter just be "checked", instead of
>> "default=checked"?
>> >>>
>> >>> -Yaron
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi guys!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This feature sounds very reasonable for me and I'll gladly use this
>> >>>> feature in enterprise wikis. In these kinds of wikis the page
>> typically has
>> >>>> only one or two authors and the number of pages is smaller than in
>> public
>> >>>> wikis. So the intention to make users informed by default of all
>> pages the
>> >>>> have contributed is very close to my heart:
>> >>>> 1) frequent notifications about the activity on wikipages make users
>> >>>> mare involved in the content creation process
>> >>>> 2) enable notifications by default is a good decision for the most
>> >>>> important pages because their changes should be as transparent as
>> possible.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----
>> >>>> Yury Katkov
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Vladimir,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm still not convinced - just because a page is important, doesn't
>> >>>>> mean that a person's *relationship* to it is important. For
>> instance, the
>> >>>>> person could be editing the page just to fix a typo - it doesn't
>> mean that
>> >>>>> they now want to monitor it.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's just my current opinion, and I'm open to counter-arguments,
>> by
>> >>>>> you or others.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Yaron
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Vladimir Kostyukov
>> >>>>> <vladimir.kostu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi Yaron,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks for such a fast reply! Regarding pages watching.You are
>> right
>> >>>>>> about default MediaWiki settings, there is no property (variable)
>> to make
>> >>>>>> "watch this page" checkbox checked by default. That is why, I've
>> decided to
>> >>>>>> make this patch.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Here is my case.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> There are several very important pages/forms in my wiki (actually
>> kind
>> >>>>>> of corporate system) and I had to make "watch this page" checkbox
>> for these
>> >>>>>> pages/forms checked by default. Again, it is because, these
>> pages/forms are
>> >>>>>> very important (like a killer feature of site, like a key entity).
>> For
>> >>>>>> example, I have a MediaWiki-based system with data about rock
>> bands, than
>> >>>>>> template "Rock Band" and form "Form:Rock Band" are main entities
>> in my
>> >>>>>> system. Other entities, such as "Album", "Song", "Person", etc.
>> Not such
>> >>>>>> important for my goals. In this case, it'd be really useful to
>> have a way
>> >>>>>> make my mains entities checkbox checked by default. Its really
>> important to
>> >>>>>> users and to maintainers to watch this pages/forms.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi Vladimir,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks for this patch. In theory, this sounds reasonable - and the
>> >>>>>>> code you created looks fine. My one concern is that, as far as I
>> know,
>> >>>>>>> currently in MediaWiki the "watch this page" checkbox is never
>> checked by
>> >>>>>>> default - except in special cases like that the user is creating
>> a new page;
>> >>>>>>> and even for those cases, the user can decide not to have it
>> checked by
>> >>>>>>> default, by changing their preferences. So I'm worried that this
>> could break
>> >>>>>>> an expectation on the part of users that some page they decided
>> to edit
>> >>>>>>> won't get added to their watchlist. Which is not a major concern,
>> but it
>> >>>>>>> might be worth something.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Could you explain why you want that checkbox checked on some
>> forms?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -Yaron
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Vladimir Kostyukov
>> >>>>>>> <vladimir.kostu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi Yaron, Stephan and everyone!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I've just written simple patch, witch adds support of "default"
>> tag
>> >>>>>>>> for standard input checkboxes (minor changes, watch). You can
>> found it
>> >>>>>>>> attached.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Here is my motivation.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> In my project, where I use SMW/SF, I had to mark standard input
>> >>>>>>>> "watch" checkbox as "checked" by default for several forms (not
>> for all
>> >>>>>>>> forms). I've decided to write something like that (regarding
>> standard
>> >>>>>>>> checkbox usage):
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> {{{standard input|watch|default=yes}}}
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> But, It didn't work for me! I looked into sources, and figured
>> out,
>> >>>>>>>> that "default" tag is ignored. Than I've decided to implement
>> this feature.
>> >>>>>>>> I think its very useful, to have a way set "watch" or "minor
>> edit" default
>> >>>>>>>> value for separated form.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> What do you thing about this feature?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>> Vladimir Kostyukov
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Vladimir Kostyukov
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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