Hi Yury,

Yes, that's what I was proposing before, but I'm no longer proposing it. :)

-Yaron


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yaron, I reread your idea but I'm not sure that I got it right
> Do you propose to automatically add "File:" text in the beginning of
> uploaded filename like here?
>
> http://i.imgur.com/MU31Tw9.png
>
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> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Jamie Thingelstad 
> <ja...@thingelstad.com>wrote:
>
>>  Hello Yaron,
>>
>> I agree that having to add the namespace in the template is confusing,
>> but my initial reaction to adding "File:" if it is set to uploadable is no.
>> Perhaps I'm being overly pedantic, but I think of a property for a page
>> that is targeting a different namespace, most commonly I see this with a
>> User page. If you have  a field that you "default=current user" you need to
>> add the namespace to that to link back to the user page. I realize that's a
>> little apples and oranges, but still comes to mind for me. Or "values from
>> namespace=" which if I'm remembering right doesn't prepend the namespace,
>> also requiring the template to add it.
>>
>> So, perhaps it is worth considering more sweeping changes that add
>> namespace clarification to a lot of things, but that would probably just
>> introduce equal confusion the other way.
>>
>> My $0.02.
>>  Jamie Thingelstad <http://www.thingelstad.com/>
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>> On May 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What about my suggestion?
>>
>> I'm also curious if anyone else has an opinion on having "uploadable"
>> fields add the "File:" to file names. This would be a somewhat big change,
>> so people may have opinions on it one way or another.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> For now I can just add some lines of code to the form generator: if
>>> uploadable option is here it will generate [[property::File:filename]]
>>> instead of just [[property::filename]].
>>>
>>> I've proposed checkbox solution because of the folowing. In my opinion
>>> Page Schemas can be great visual tool to edit forms and templates very
>>> quicky. Now the editing of the schema slows because I have to look up tag
>>> parameters. More buttons, dropdowns and checkboxes could speed up the
>>> editing process.
>>> -----
>>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Yury,
>>>>
>>>> Hm, that's true... I hadn't thought of that. Some checkbox could be
>>>> added to the Page Schemas form, but maybe the better solution is just to
>>>> have uploadable fields in SF start adding a "File:" to the beginning of
>>>> file names they've uploaded. It's something that various people have asked
>>>> about, but I never took that seriously - I liked the "cleanliness" of not
>>>> including the namespace, and just having the file name. But maybe that
>>>> cleanliness is more trouble than it's worth - I know that, even without
>>>> this Page Schemas issue, the fact that a "File:" needs to be added to the
>>>> template has caused a considerable amount of confusion.
>>>>
>>>> The main counter-argument might be that this approach is already in
>>>> place on a lot of wikis, so making a change to the upload setup would
>>>> require people to change a lot of existing pages; but then again,
>>>> backward-compatibility can't be a reason to never make a change, and the
>>>> Replace Text extension might be able to help with that sort of thing 
>>>> anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> -Yaron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Yaron, all!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's possible now to create uploadable fields in forms via
>>>>> PageSchemas: we just create a Page property and specifily the field as
>>>>> uploadable in additional paramerest. There is however an issue.
>>>>> When I generate the templates I need the File namespace to be added in
>>>>> front of the filename:
>>>>>
>>>>> [[someproperty::File:MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead I have the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> [[someproperty::MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>>>>>
>>>>> and my image not appears on the page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yaron, what's your advice on how to better handle that in a
>>>>> PageSchemas if I want to add this feature? What about adding a checkbox
>>>>> "uploadable" to the Field definition?
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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