I suppose that's true... although in practice I've never seen values get
prepended with anything other than a namespace. You could have a field
containing all subpage names, of course, but I've never seen that done, and
on a "semantic" level it doesn't really make sense to do that. On the other
hand, maybe that simpler wording would be clearer for users.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And also given that, a single checkbox that says "Uploadable?" probably
> wouldn't be enough - the better option would probably be to have a new form
> input for each template field (in the "Edit schema" form) that said
> something like "This field always links to pages in this namespace (leave
> blank if none): _____".
>
> Hmm. The caption you've proposed is only about namespaces now. What
> about: "Prepend the field value with the following text" ? This way we will
> broad the usecase further.
> -----
> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yury,
>>
>> Yes, that's what I was proposing before, but I'm no longer proposing it.
>> :)
>>
>> -Yaron
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yaron, I reread your idea but I'm not sure that I got it right
>>> Do you propose to automatically add "File:" text in the beginning of
>>> uploaded filename like here?
>>>
>>> http://i.imgur.com/MU31Tw9.png
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Jamie Thingelstad <ja...@thingelstad.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Yaron,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that having to add the namespace in the template is confusing,
>>>> but my initial reaction to adding "File:" if it is set to uploadable is no.
>>>> Perhaps I'm being overly pedantic, but I think of a property for a page
>>>> that is targeting a different namespace, most commonly I see this with a
>>>> User page. If you have a field that you "default=current user" you need to
>>>> add the namespace to that to link back to the user page. I realize that's a
>>>> little apples and oranges, but still comes to mind for me. Or "values from
>>>> namespace=" which if I'm remembering right doesn't prepend the namespace,
>>>> also requiring the template to add it.
>>>>
>>>> So, perhaps it is worth considering more sweeping changes that add
>>>> namespace clarification to a lot of things, but that would probably just
>>>> introduce equal confusion the other way.
>>>>
>>>> My $0.02.
>>>> Jamie Thingelstad <http://www.thingelstad.com/>
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>>>> On May 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> What about my suggestion?
>>>>
>>>> I'm also curious if anyone else has an opinion on having "uploadable"
>>>> fields add the "File:" to file names. This would be a somewhat big change,
>>>> so people may have opinions on it one way or another.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For now I can just add some lines of code to the form generator: if
>>>>> uploadable option is here it will generate [[property::File:filename]]
>>>>> instead of just [[property::filename]].
>>>>>
>>>>> I've proposed checkbox solution because of the folowing. In my opinion
>>>>> Page Schemas can be great visual tool to edit forms and templates very
>>>>> quicky. Now the editing of the schema slows because I have to look up tag
>>>>> parameters. More buttons, dropdowns and checkboxes could speed up the
>>>>> editing process.
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Yury,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hm, that's true... I hadn't thought of that. Some checkbox could be
>>>>>> added to the Page Schemas form, but maybe the better solution is just to
>>>>>> have uploadable fields in SF start adding a "File:" to the beginning of
>>>>>> file names they've uploaded. It's something that various people have
>>>>>> asked
>>>>>> about, but I never took that seriously - I liked the "cleanliness" of not
>>>>>> including the namespace, and just having the file name. But maybe that
>>>>>> cleanliness is more trouble than it's worth - I know that, even without
>>>>>> this Page Schemas issue, the fact that a "File:" needs to be added to the
>>>>>> template has caused a considerable amount of confusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main counter-argument might be that this approach is already in
>>>>>> place on a lot of wikis, so making a change to the upload setup would
>>>>>> require people to change a lot of existing pages; but then again,
>>>>>> backward-compatibility can't be a reason to never make a change, and the
>>>>>> Replace Text extension might be able to help with that sort of thing
>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Yaron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Yury Katkov
>>>>>> <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Yaron, all!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's possible now to create uploadable fields in forms via
>>>>>>> PageSchemas: we just create a Page property and specifily the field as
>>>>>>> uploadable in additional paramerest. There is however an issue.
>>>>>>> When I generate the templates I need the File namespace to be added
>>>>>>> in front of the filename:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [[someproperty::File:MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Instead I have the following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [[someproperty::MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and my image not appears on the page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yaron, what's your advice on how to better handle that in a
>>>>>>> PageSchemas if I want to add this feature? What about adding a checkbox
>>>>>>> "uploadable" to the Field definition?
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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