> And also given that, a single checkbox that says "Uploadable?" probably
wouldn't be enough - the better option would probably be to have a new form
input for each template field (in the "Edit schema" form) that said
something like "This field always links to pages in this namespace (leave
blank if none): _____".
Hmm. The caption you've proposed is only about namespaces now. What about:
"Prepend the field value with the following text" ? This way we will broad
the usecase further.
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Yury Katkov, WikiVote
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
> Hi Yury,
>
> Yes, that's what I was proposing before, but I'm no longer proposing it. :)
>
> -Yaron
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yaron, I reread your idea but I'm not sure that I got it right
>> Do you propose to automatically add "File:" text in the beginning of
>> uploaded filename like here?
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/MU31Tw9.png
>>
>> -----
>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Jamie Thingelstad
>> <ja...@thingelstad.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Yaron,
>>>
>>> I agree that having to add the namespace in the template is confusing,
>>> but my initial reaction to adding "File:" if it is set to uploadable is no.
>>> Perhaps I'm being overly pedantic, but I think of a property for a page
>>> that is targeting a different namespace, most commonly I see this with a
>>> User page. If you have a field that you "default=current user" you need to
>>> add the namespace to that to link back to the user page. I realize that's a
>>> little apples and oranges, but still comes to mind for me. Or "values from
>>> namespace=" which if I'm remembering right doesn't prepend the namespace,
>>> also requiring the template to add it.
>>>
>>> So, perhaps it is worth considering more sweeping changes that add
>>> namespace clarification to a lot of things, but that would probably just
>>> introduce equal confusion the other way.
>>>
>>> My $0.02.
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>>> On May 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What about my suggestion?
>>>
>>> I'm also curious if anyone else has an opinion on having "uploadable"
>>> fields add the "File:" to file names. This would be a somewhat big change,
>>> so people may have opinions on it one way or another.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> For now I can just add some lines of code to the form generator: if
>>>> uploadable option is here it will generate [[property::File:filename]]
>>>> instead of just [[property::filename]].
>>>>
>>>> I've proposed checkbox solution because of the folowing. In my opinion
>>>> Page Schemas can be great visual tool to edit forms and templates very
>>>> quicky. Now the editing of the schema slows because I have to look up tag
>>>> parameters. More buttons, dropdowns and checkboxes could speed up the
>>>> editing process.
>>>> -----
>>>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Yury,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, that's true... I hadn't thought of that. Some checkbox could be
>>>>> added to the Page Schemas form, but maybe the better solution is just to
>>>>> have uploadable fields in SF start adding a "File:" to the beginning of
>>>>> file names they've uploaded. It's something that various people have asked
>>>>> about, but I never took that seriously - I liked the "cleanliness" of not
>>>>> including the namespace, and just having the file name. But maybe that
>>>>> cleanliness is more trouble than it's worth - I know that, even without
>>>>> this Page Schemas issue, the fact that a "File:" needs to be added to the
>>>>> template has caused a considerable amount of confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main counter-argument might be that this approach is already in
>>>>> place on a lot of wikis, so making a change to the upload setup would
>>>>> require people to change a lot of existing pages; but then again,
>>>>> backward-compatibility can't be a reason to never make a change, and the
>>>>> Replace Text extension might be able to help with that sort of thing
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Yaron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Yaron, all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's possible now to create uploadable fields in forms via
>>>>>> PageSchemas: we just create a Page property and specifily the field as
>>>>>> uploadable in additional paramerest. There is however an issue.
>>>>>> When I generate the templates I need the File namespace to be added
>>>>>> in front of the filename:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [[someproperty::File:MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead I have the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [[someproperty::MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and my image not appears on the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yaron, what's your advice on how to better handle that in a
>>>>>> PageSchemas if I want to add this feature? What about adding a checkbox
>>>>>> "uploadable" to the Field definition?
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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