Bernd Fondermann ha scritto:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 For jSieve you found that we had false dependencies and worked out a
 good solution that allowed us to remove the whole stage folder (that I
 repeat we simply introduced to satisfy a request by Noel to not use
 remote repositories to retrieve dependencies during a build).

Noel raised this issue, but I absolutely agree that projects should be
self-containing and not depend on contents of remote repositories.
This is not a nuisance and not to satisfy a single person, but to
solve an issue.

BTW, at my current customer's site, access to standard maven
repositories is blocked. This renders a great part of modern open
source projects useless. Great!  (James source distribution included.
It does not ship the stage directory while svn access is blocked, too,
of course.)

  Bernd

I'm not against the stage folder. I would prefer to see a better support from maven to the stage folder (currently is the best hack I found to satisfy our strict requirements) but I can live with the current approach. I just want a SOLUTION to this release/pom issue. I'm tired that we are the only ASF project that everytime has issues in releasing using maven. This is disappointing.

If maven is not suitable to make ASF releases (every maven2 based ASF projects depends on junit and remotely download junit.pom under an unkown license from central when you build it) then I think this should be taken into high priority in the ASF board discussions and some clear policy written and maybe the maven PMC should be suggested to stop releasing while they don't fix this critical issue.

We (JAMES PMC) have already very big problems in making 1 release in 1 year I don't think we can afford also to be the first to solve general ASF issues.

All the messages I wrote in past about licensing/copyrights and legal stuff prove that I'm keen to solve them and when they have not been solved is because no one gave clear answers to the questions I made. I cannot pay a lawyer to have answers. So my only alternative is to stop releasing. Sad, but I can accept this, now.

Stefano


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