Java is not NEW. its extends C++
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Thompson, Willard (GTICCC)
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 5:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Helping Sun against MS
MS is a good company. However, if they have committed a crime - which I
believe they did but I don't know the details, then instead of breaking up
the company I think a more appropriate punishment would be to have them
release ALL of their source code and design tactics so that others can
benefit AND to restrict the amount of sales to hardware companies (if that's
legal) - this would be the best counter/penalty for a monopoly. Just some
food for thought, just like the ancient Romans, MS never came up with
anything *new* they just make existing things better. Sun came up with
something new JAVA. C# is just C++ and Java put together.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Rivera-Franqui [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helping Sun against MS
Hi everyone!
By now you might have heard that Microsoft has decided to stop including
the Java Virtual Machine in their operating systems. In my opinion,
this is due in part to Sun's inability to see that January's ruling
would have had this effect, since the Microsoft tantrum is that if MS
can't have it or control it, they're either going to buy it or they are
going to develop some new product to compete with it and use any means
possible to gain a monopoly in the market. Microsoft is preparing to
unveil C#, and Java stands in its way, so they're going to try to
prevent users from using Java, or at least make it difficult for them to
use it.
I've read about three articles today about these news, and from what
I've collected from these articles is that MS will let the JVM intact
for upgrades, will let consumers download their discontinued and
deprecated JVM (someday it will not be available anymore) if a browser
goes to a web page that uses Java, and MS seems to have plans to
completely replace Java with C#.
While I feel that Microsoft's actions are more proof that they've no
real interest in helping consumers, I'll leave my opinion aside in this
email and its subject.
I believe that Java developers must take action in helping Sun maintain
its Virtual Machine readily available in all operating systems. I'm
willing to form a group of developers willing to write to major computer
software distributors (i.e. people that sell Windows XP) to tell them to
include a CD or diskettes with a major NON-MS virtual machine for
consumers. Also, it is needed for computer vendors (i.e. companies like
Dell, Gateway, Compaq) to install a virtual machine on ALL of the
computers they sell to companies and individuals. One strong argument
is that in order to better serve their customers, a Java Virtual Machine
is essential.
I also believe that a non-MS Virtual Machine should be used, since C#'s
release is near and MS might supply customers with a defective Virtual
Machine in order to prevent users from having a competent use of Java,
and forcing them to use C#. This sounds paranoid, but MS has been known
to use similar tactics to force users to use their products.
Please, reply and tell me what you think of this initiative and what
other ideas might be useful. We should not let Microsoft keep
manipulating the computer industry and its users.
Sincerely,
Daniel Rivera-Franqui
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