Chris, Do you have an update on this? It's been about 7 weeks now.
I also read this in Jonathan's blog the other day.... [quote] And as you know, all our software is free for the asking (you pay only for commercial support, when you want it). From Java to Solaris to NetBeans, to everything in between - it's all free for the asking. [/quote] > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sgd-users- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Saul > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:58 AM > To: Sun Secure Global Desktop Users mailing list > Subject: Re: [SGD-Users] RoadMap > > As per my previous mail, I'll get an official response. > > Bear in mind that patches were never part of the free deal, so building > up an infrastructure that was stable but which then required a patch (a > security update to Apache for example) would have meant buying support > or reinstalling an entire production setup with a fresh full download. > > Guys, your comments are noted - give me a little time to come back to you. > > Chris > > Zeev Fisher wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > I would like to add my frustration here... > > > > I built an infrastructure around SGD, wasted lot of time on bugs and > > thought to buy support when everything is stable. My assumption was that > > the product is free and will stay like it for fair amount of time > > because of the reason mentioned below (opensourcing). > > > > Now, not only the price cost money all of a sudden even without any > > notice like RedHat did (also RH didn't change their policy so quick. I > > used their free product for several years), but also the price is very > > expensive. > > > > I will be glad to see an official response. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Zeev > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Dickens > > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:57 PM > > To: Sun Secure Global Desktop Users mailing list > > Subject: Re: [SGD-Users] RoadMap > > > > On 10/8/06, Christopher Saul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Blaster > >> > >> Information on the SGD road map would typically be fairly confidential > >> until close to its release, as with most other software products - you > >> can't tell your competition what you're up to :) > >> > >> SGD was available to use free in production use to enable as many > >> customers to get access to the software as easily as possible. > >> > >> In reality, no customers would ever deploy without a support contract > > or > >> access to patches and upgradable new releases - to do so you still had > >> to purchase a right to use licence and the appropriate support > > contract. > >> Things haven't changed that much in terms of being able to get access > > to > >> the software easily - the free download gives you a 30 day, 5 > > concurrent > >> user licence and if you need an extended eval licence, or a permanent > >> demo licence (if you're a Sun partner) you simply need to get in touch > >> with your local Sun office. > >> > > > > hmm, haven't chaged much you say? Its gone from email us, tell us how > > many permanent free licesnes you would like, to now you are getting > > extended "evalulation or demo" licenses? Seems like a huge change to > > me. Just a few months later they are offering discount licenses and > > acting like they are doing us a favor? > > > > Sun lately has been trying build community and giving away software > > and opensourcing, and making money off the related hardware and > > support sales, many people are afraid that they are going to get > > everyone to use there software then decide to change the licensing and > > start selling the programs, the way SGD changed only serves to > > reinforce peoples fears that sun really isn't into opensource and free > > software and this is all just an act. > > > > James Dickens > > uadmin.blogspot.com > > > > > >> Chris > >> > >> Blaster wrote: > >>> It seems like getting SGD information out of Sun is worse that > > pulling > >>> teeth. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Why did is SGD no longer available for free? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It would be nice if the SGD developers would participate in this > > group > >>> as much as the Sunray developers do in the SR mailing list. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Marcus Young > >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:29 PM > >>> *To:* [email protected] > >>> *Subject:* [SGD-Users] RoadMap > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Interested to know if there is a roadmap for SGD releases? I > > understand > >>> that there is a new version in beta - does anyone know when this > > might > >>> be released? Specifically I am interested in the possibility of > >>> creating individual launchers on JDS desktops for SGD served > >>> applications? Maybe this is already possible, although I don't > > think > >>> so.... > >>> > >>> Marcus > >>> > >>> > >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SGD-Users mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sgd-users > >> -- > >> Christopher Saul > >> Desktop Sales Manager > >> Sun Microsystems SEE > >> Mobile: +971 50 650 7041 > >> Office: +971 4 366 2634 > >> Ext: x12634 > >> > >> http://www.sun.com/software/sunray/community.jsp > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SGD-Users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sgd-users > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > SGD-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sgd-users > > _______________________________________________ > > SGD-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sgd-users > > -- > Christopher Saul > Desktop Sales Manager > Sun Microsystems SEE > Mobile: +971 50 650 7041 > Office: +971 4 366 2634 > Ext: x12634 > > http://www.sun.com/software/sunray/community.jsp > _______________________________________________ > SGD-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sgd-users _______________________________________________ SGD-Users mailing list [email protected] http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sgd-users
