Thanks Ben. Section 2.4.4 goes over some general theory but im still not sure how to implement based off this. Maybe i overlooked something in the manual but I didnt see any mention of VSenseReg and VSenseBatt nor the argument to send with the SET_PMUX_COMMAND. Its possible getting the battery voltage is way over my head as its not apparent to me how to use the charts in 2.4.4. It might be helpful if it could be broken down, for example:
1) enable AnEx ADC 7 and AnEx ADC 0 2) send SET_PMUX_COMMAND with argument = 1 3) voltage = f(ADC0,ADC7) If im missing something i apologize. It doesnt seem apparent to me how to get a battery percentage from the information provided. On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Benjamin Kuris <[email protected]> wrote: > Nick, > > Please see section 2.4.4 of the Shimmer User manual, "Voltage and > Power Measurement" > > -Ben > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Nicholas Hosein <[email protected]> > wrote: > > My mistake. I enabled AnEX0/7 and now i get the values. Also i sent the > > parameter 1 with the SET_PMUX_COMMAND. One question i do have is what is > the > > difference in VsenseBat an VsenseReg. My guess is i use the formula you > gave > > the link for in the FAQ to convert VsenseBatt to volts and then calculate > > some kind of battery percentage from it. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Nick > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Nicholas Hosein <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks mike that makes sense. As far as interfacing to ADC 0/7 I dont > see > >> anything in the READ_ME or the shimmer manual which explains how to use > the > >> SET_PMUX_COMMAND. From the BoilerPlaceC.nc code I can see that > >> SET_PMUX_COMMAND needs one argument but it doesnt explain what this > argument > >> is. > >> > >> From my limited understanding it seems like after I set the PMUX the ADC > >> 0/7 will have the battery voltage which will be sent over bluetooth in > the > >> same packet as the acc/gyr/mag. > >> > >> Also from the readme im assuming the packet will look like this: > >> > >> [PacketType | TimeStamp | BatteryMSB | Acc ... Mag | BatteryLSB] > >> > >> Or am i confusing the ADC number with channels? > >> > >> Much thanks, > >> > >> Nick > >> Nick > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:42 AM, mike healy <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Nick, > >>> > >>> That is not correct. You cannot sample the AnEx (ADC0 and ADC7) > channels > >>> at the same time as the battery voltages and would need to be > multiplexed. > >>> The acceleration data is read on different ADC channels so they can be > read > >>> simultaneously with the battery data (or close enough). > >>> > >>> However, one thing to note is that there is some crosstalk between one > of > >>> the acceleration channels (z-axis) and one of the voltage measurements > >>> (VSenseBatt). This can influence the battery reading by 5-6% on > average and > >>> up to 10% in extreme cases. > >>> > >>> There are a couple of ways of dealing with this crosstalk (but it's not > >>> something I've had a chance to play around with myself): > >>> 1. SW averaging (100 to 1000 counts) to the battery measurement as > accel. > >>> signals are quasi-periodic assuming the user isn't in an elevator or > >>> vehicle. > >>> 2. VSenseBatt - n * Zaccel = VSenseBatt_correct. The scaling factor (n) > >>> would need to be determined experimentally. > >>> > >>> The other option would be to put the z-axis line into GIO output mode > and > >>> drive it low when you want to measure the battery voltage. > >>> > >>> The best solution for you is going to be very much dependent on your > >>> application's specifics. > >>> > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Nicholas Hosein <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Just to clarify. If the battery monitoring is enabled on the shimmer > >>>> with the SET_PMUX_COMMAND and acceleration data is being collected > >>>> simultaneously the resultant output should be garbage? In order to > get the > >>>> battery state while collecting data I need to modify the boiler plate > app to > >>>> multiplex the two signals. > >>>> > >>>> Best, > >>>> > >>>> Nick > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:07 AM, mike healy <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Nick, > >>>>> > >>>>> Enabling the voltage monitoring is available in > >>>>> ShimmerConnect/BoilerPlate. When you got to Tools->Configure Shimmer > you > >>>>> will see an option that says "Enable Voltage monitoring". This will > change > >>>>> the "AnEx ADC0" and AnEx ADC7" channels to "VSenseReg" and > "VSenseBatt" > >>>>> respectively. Specifically the "SET_PMUX_COMMAND" in BoilerPlate > manages the > >>>>> state of this mux: > >>>>> > http://tinyos.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tinyos/tinyos-2.x-contrib/shimmer/apps/BoilerPlate/Shimmer.h?content-type=text%2Fplain > >>>>> > >>>>> The part that has not been implemented is to toggle this option > quickly > >>>>> in order to inter-space voltage monitoring with measuring the > external ADC > >>>>> channels, or any method to convert the difference between the two > voltage > >>>>> measurements to instantaneous current (as described in the manual). > >>>>> > >>>>> Mike > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Nicholas Hosein < > [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Does the boiler plate app have this implemented by chance? or does > the > >>>>>> shimmer connect software use something besides the boilerplate. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Much Thanks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Nick > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:15 AM, mike healy <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Nick, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The battery monitoring is multiplexed with the two ADC channels > >>>>>>> exposed on the external connector (i.e. ADC0 and ADC7). So you > cannot sample > >>>>>>> the battery voltages and these channels at the same time. But you > can switch > >>>>>>> between the two of them quickly if required. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> See section 2.4.4. of the Shimmer User Manual for further details. > >>>>>>> See the FAQ page to see how to convert the raw ADC value you > receive back to > >>>>>>> battery voltage: http://www.shimmer-research.com/links/faqs#S9. > Remember to > >>>>>>> double the value due to the halving of the voltage before it is > measured (as > >>>>>>> mentioned in the referenced section in the manual). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Nicholas Hosein > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I noticed that the shimmer software can access the batter state on > >>>>>>>> the mote. In my experience the battery monitor and data bus share > the same > >>>>>>>> bus so battery updates cannot be made while collecting data (I > could be > >>>>>>>> wrong about this though). Was there an update to the boiler plate > app that > >>>>>>>> allows battery monitoring (by percentage or voltage) in realtime > while > >>>>>>>> collecting data? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Much Thanks, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Nick > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Shimmer-users mailing list > >>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>> https://lists.eecs.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/shimmer-users > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shimmer-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.eecs.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/shimmer-users > > >
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