give PHP a month and will see if java is needed for *very-large-scale* sites
;) ;)

ropu

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> thanks for the replies.
> for now I'll play with the "easy" php version... hoping to get so big
> so fast to need the very-large-scale java version :)
> regarding to the "pick the one that suits you best" question,  some
> sort of "mod_opensocial" apache module would be great (..it would be
> fun to code..)
>
> thanks
> leo
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> as far as I'm reading,
> >> it seems the java version is "better" from a production-ready
> perspective.
> >> am I wrong?
> >
> >
> > Yes, you're wrong :). What's better is really a matter of what your
> current
> > architecture looks like. If you're already a PHP (or anything CGI-like)
> > based setup, the PHP solution is probably better. If you're using Java,
> go
> > with the Java version. There are some different performance
> characteristics
> > of each, but those are language differences more than anything else.
> >
> >
> >> is it only due to the Caja availabilty?
> >
> >
> > Caja is really a non-starter at this point. Nobody's using it because it
> > isn't ready yet; when it is ready, it'll definitely be an advantage of a
> > java-based deployment, but PHP implementations can always leverage caja
> by
> > using a web service of some sort.
> >
> >
> >> are there other considerations? (i.e. scalability?)
> >
> >
> > Sure, but these are the same considerations for any "app server" vs.
> "cgi"
> > setup. The java implementation can handle more simultaneous requests than
> > the PHP setup running under apache (due to memory limits), but it also
> has a
> > much higher baseline memory overhead (due to the JVM). Deploying the PHP
> > setup is a lot easier than deploying the java implementation, but you
> have
> > more options on how you can deploy the java build due to the wide variety
> of
> > servlet containers out there.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> what about other implementations?
> >> a full-compliant RoR flavour would be great.
> >>
> >> Thanks to all
> >> leonardo
> >>
> >
>



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