mod_shindig would be a blast to write, actually. No idea *when* -- but would
be fun. Apache makes C fun again -- you get to punt on all(1) the memory
management!

-Brian

1) Where "all" means the kind of punting you get to do in most GC'd
languages, not forget altogether.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Eiji Kitamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> It's very interesting.
> Gonna be really great if there's OpenSocial apache module
> mod_opensocial.so.
> Hope there'll be someone who's crazy enough to implement it :)
>
> 2008/6/20 Leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > sooo great!
> > but I have to insist...
> >
> > LoadModule osc_module modules/mod_opensocial.so
> >
> > try to be faster ;)
> >
> >
> > (yes... I'm a *bit* exhagerated....)
> >
> >
> > good night to all!
> > (at least, here is time to sleep!)
> >
> > leo
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Ropu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> give PHP a month and will see if java is needed for *very-large-scale*
> sites
> >> ;) ;)
> >>
> >> ropu
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> thanks for the replies.
> >>> for now I'll play with the "easy" php version... hoping to get so big
> >>> so fast to need the very-large-scale java version :)
> >>> regarding to the "pick the one that suits you best" question,  some
> >>> sort of "mod_opensocial" apache module would be great (..it would be
> >>> fun to code..)
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>> leo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi all,
> >>> >> as far as I'm reading,
> >>> >> it seems the java version is "better" from a production-ready
> >>> perspective.
> >>> >> am I wrong?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Yes, you're wrong :). What's better is really a matter of what your
> >>> current
> >>> > architecture looks like. If you're already a PHP (or anything
> CGI-like)
> >>> > based setup, the PHP solution is probably better. If you're using
> Java,
> >>> go
> >>> > with the Java version. There are some different performance
> >>> characteristics
> >>> > of each, but those are language differences more than anything else.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> is it only due to the Caja availabilty?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Caja is really a non-starter at this point. Nobody's using it because
> it
> >>> > isn't ready yet; when it is ready, it'll definitely be an advantage
> of a
> >>> > java-based deployment, but PHP implementations can always leverage
> caja
> >>> by
> >>> > using a web service of some sort.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> are there other considerations? (i.e. scalability?)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Sure, but these are the same considerations for any "app server" vs.
> >>> "cgi"
> >>> > setup. The java implementation can handle more simultaneous requests
> than
> >>> > the PHP setup running under apache (due to memory limits), but it
> also
> >>> has a
> >>> > much higher baseline memory overhead (due to the JVM). Deploying the
> PHP
> >>> > setup is a lot easier than deploying the java implementation, but you
> >>> have
> >>> > more options on how you can deploy the java build due to the wide
> variety
> >>> of
> >>> > servlet containers out there.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> what about other implementations?
> >>> >> a full-compliant RoR flavour would be great.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks to all
> >>> >> leonardo
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> .-. --- .--. ..-
> >> R o p u
> >>
> >
>

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