As with all good code, you start by writing it :)

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I write often apache modules for my company.
> I too prefer to code in pure C and then bind through native extensions
> / apache modules.
> I'm not too much skilled but I get nice results sometimes.
> If I could help.. it would be great :)
> where can I start from?
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was a big proponent of doing a pure C implementation originally -- it
> > would be trivial to convert it to a php extension, apache module, python
> > library, etc.
> >
> > I actually wrote some code to start the task way back around the time 0.5
> > was coming out (probably before you even proposed shindig :)).
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> mod_shindig would be a blast to write, actually. No idea *when* -- but
> >> would
> >> be fun. Apache makes C fun again -- you get to punt on all(1) the memory
> >> management!
> >>
> >> -Brian
> >>
> >> 1) Where "all" means the kind of punting you get to do in most GC'd
> >> languages, not forget altogether.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Eiji Kitamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It's very interesting.
> >> > Gonna be really great if there's OpenSocial apache module
> >> > mod_opensocial.so.
> >> > Hope there'll be someone who's crazy enough to implement it :)
> >> >
> >> > 2008/6/20 Leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> > > sooo great!
> >> > > but I have to insist...
> >> > >
> >> > > LoadModule osc_module modules/mod_opensocial.so
> >> > >
> >> > > try to be faster ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > (yes... I'm a *bit* exhagerated....)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > good night to all!
> >> > > (at least, here is time to sleep!)
> >> > >
> >> > > leo
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Ropu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >> give PHP a month and will see if java is needed for
> *very-large-scale*
> >> > sites
> >> > >> ;) ;)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ropu
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> thanks for the replies.
> >> > >>> for now I'll play with the "easy" php version... hoping to get so
> big
> >> > >>> so fast to need the very-large-scale java version :)
> >> > >>> regarding to the "pick the one that suits you best" question,
>  some
> >> > >>> sort of "mod_opensocial" apache module would be great (..it would
> be
> >> > >>> fun to code..)
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> thanks
> >> > >>> leo
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Leonardo <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >> Hi all,
> >> > >>> >> as far as I'm reading,
> >> > >>> >> it seems the java version is "better" from a production-ready
> >> > >>> perspective.
> >> > >>> >> am I wrong?
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Yes, you're wrong :). What's better is really a matter of what
> your
> >> > >>> current
> >> > >>> > architecture looks like. If you're already a PHP (or anything
> >> > CGI-like)
> >> > >>> > based setup, the PHP solution is probably better. If you're
> using
> >> > Java,
> >> > >>> go
> >> > >>> > with the Java version. There are some different performance
> >> > >>> characteristics
> >> > >>> > of each, but those are language differences more than anything
> >> else.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >> is it only due to the Caja availabilty?
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Caja is really a non-starter at this point. Nobody's using it
> >> because
> >> > it
> >> > >>> > isn't ready yet; when it is ready, it'll definitely be an
> advantage
> >> > of a
> >> > >>> > java-based deployment, but PHP implementations can always
> leverage
> >> > caja
> >> > >>> by
> >> > >>> > using a web service of some sort.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >> are there other considerations? (i.e. scalability?)
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Sure, but these are the same considerations for any "app server"
> >> vs.
> >> > >>> "cgi"
> >> > >>> > setup. The java implementation can handle more simultaneous
> >> requests
> >> > than
> >> > >>> > the PHP setup running under apache (due to memory limits), but
> it
> >> > also
> >> > >>> has a
> >> > >>> > much higher baseline memory overhead (due to the JVM). Deploying
> >> the
> >> > PHP
> >> > >>> > setup is a lot easier than deploying the java implementation,
> but
> >> you
> >> > >>> have
> >> > >>> > more options on how you can deploy the java build due to the
> wide
> >> > variety
> >> > >>> of
> >> > >>> > servlet containers out there.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> what about other implementations?
> >> > >>> >> a full-compliant RoR flavour would be great.
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> Thanks to all
> >> > >>> >> leonardo
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> .-. --- .--. ..-
> >> > >> R o p u
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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