Hi, Thank you George for phrasing this so accurately. I fully agree that in case of the RIRs there already exists a frame work (address policy) that provides all the process needed for this. I am not sure how many big ISPs / LIRs follow this discussion, but I expect that there commercial contractual concerns exist regarding this and I highly doubt that such companies will follow this document's advice, just because it's a standard..
Tim On 6 Aug 2012, at 18:38, George Michaelson wrote: > I am very concerned the impact this kind of activity has on the integrity of > public allocation registries. > > How are external parties meant to understand what should exist, if the RPKI > signing leaps over intermediate parties that are explicitly listed as having > substantive authority over the disposition of resources? > > I am struggling to imagine how this activity happens in the context of > lawsuit, and the risk of lawsuit by the skipped-over party, and other > unrelated parties. > > The Grandparent has no contractual relationship with the Grandchild. What is > the basis for entering into an agreement to certify these resources, rather > than performing a publicly recognized transfer of control? Whats the > long-term relationship between the new child, and the Grandparent? on what > basis does RPKI certification continue, or cease? Does the parent retain any > control? What if the parent does wake up an RPKI engine, and issues > conflicting signing state? > > I don't think these are subjects which vest well inside the IETF process, or > an RFC. I think they go to address policy questions currently handled inside > the RIR policy framework, by address holders. Since the affected parties > include address holders I cannot see how this should be documented or defined > outside of that process. > > -George > > On 05/08/2012, at 4:12 AM, Alexey Melnikov <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> On behalf of SIDR WG chairs I would like to initiate 2 weeks acceptance call >> for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting starting from today, August 4th. Please >> send your positive or negative feedback to the mailing list or directly to >> chairs. >> >> Thank you, >> Alexey >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sidr mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr > > _______________________________________________ > sidr mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr
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