On Dec 6, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Richard Barnes wrote:

>> My 0.02, I worry that your web interface is inadequate for the eventual 
>> secure provisioning of router certs.
> 
> I'm curious what sort of UI you would recommend for provisioning router 
> certs.  

As I thought I had outlined, the fundamental problem is in the hosted model.  I 
don't think data owners/operators should be captive to external systemic 
dependencies in this case.

> There's not a fundamental difference between trusting TLS to deliver HTTPS 
> and trusting, say, SSH to protect your router CLI.  

Right, they're both dangerous choices when you do them over the 
vast/untrusted/public interwebz compared to doing provisioning in house...  Not 
sure where you're going with this...

> Any UI presents a point of vulnerability.  I don't really see a reason to 
> pick on web apps in this context.

No... there's a lot of systemic dependencies that get roped in when you start 
doing these things out over the Internet vs. in your NOC.

Eric
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