Another thing you cann try is equilibrating the system with a classical MD
run at first ... It should work.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Szyja, B.M. <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Sufian,
>
> In general, if the random distribution of molecules gives us the system
> close enough to it's optimal geometry (not necessarily in its minimum), you
> could start MD without prior optimization, and you only need the
> equilibration run to "take care" of the proper geometry. But if you observe
> such jumps in temperature, it usually means too much or too close contacts.
> I would suggest you to do at least a couple of optimization steps and then
> try again. From my experience I can say that water is quite tricky solvent,
> it is not only due to the density of the simulated cell, but also the
> relative orientation of molecules (presence of hydrogen bonds network) can
> play an important role.
>
> Success!
> Bartek
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:32 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] Energy flauctuation in MD
>
> Hi Bartek
> i am planning to optimize the net structure (16H2O + Formaamide)  after i
> "shake" the unit cell with those water molecules only
> random distribution of water molecules were chosen alone firstly,
> I really do not know if i need to optimize H2O molecules before MD run?
>
> yours,
> sufian
> >
> > Hi Sufian,
> >
> > My guess is the geometry being too far from optimal. Have you optimized
> > the system (atomic coordinates and/or cell size) before the MD run?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bartek
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:58 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] Energy flauctuation in MD
> >
> >  Hi Andrey
> >
> >  I have 16-H2O molecule in my unit cell, i am trying to cool the system
> >  down from 1000K to 300K to be more realistic. The problem still there,
> > the
> >  temperature goes very high and won't stop at the target temperature, i
> >  tried to use annealing, Nose,... all those options give the same
> problem,
> >  i am wondering if there is any unseen option that can be used to fix
> this
> >  problem?
> >
> >  yours,
> >  sufain
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Sufian,
> >>>
> >>> How many molecules does your "bunch" contain? It's normal to have
> >>> temperature fluctuations of ~T/sqrt(N), where N is the number of
> >>> particles. Also I encountered non-physical temperature fluctuations
> >>> when initial temperature of run was not equal to final temperature.
> >>> Seems that Nose thermostat in Siesta is not capable to implement
> >>> temperature gradients. And the final remark - if you want to model
> >>> gas-liquid phase transition, Siesta might not be the right tool to do
> >>> it, since it needs a big supercell and large simulation time.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Andrey.
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Siesta Users
> >>>>
> >>>> I am trying to run a molecular dynamics simulation for a bunch of H2O
> >>>> molecules,i chose the Tini =800 K and Tfin= 300 K  my run starts
> >>>> normally for the first one or two steps. but after that a huge
> >>>> fluctuations in temperature appear, it reached a couple of thousands
> >>>> of kelvins i,tried many options but i still has the same problem,
> >>>> can any body assist me in this problem?
> >>>> Thank you all,
> >>>>
> >>>> sufian
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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