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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Ben Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have found that if your initial configuration is distributed well enough,
> then a classical MD thermalization isn't necessary....but you'll need a good
> program that does that for you. If you already have a classical MD code
> you're familiar with, then use that. Otherwise, the skew start method of
> MOLDY (http://www.ccp5.ac.uk/librar.shtml#MOLDY) works really well. MOLDY
> also has MD capability, but like I said the skew start method for generating
> an initial configuration has been sufficient for me in SIESTA (although I
> haven't used it for water).
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:27 AM, N H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Another thing you cann try is equilibrating the system with a classical MD
>> run at first ... It should work.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Szyja, B.M. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sufian,
>>>
>>> In general, if the random distribution of molecules gives us the system
>>> close enough to it's optimal geometry (not necessarily in its minimum), you
>>> could start MD without prior optimization, and you only need the
>>> equilibration run to "take care" of the proper geometry. But if you observe
>>> such jumps in temperature, it usually means too much or too close contacts.
>>> I would suggest you to do at least a couple of optimization steps and then
>>> try again. From my experience I can say that water is quite tricky solvent,
>>> it is not only due to the density of the simulated cell, but also the
>>> relative orientation of molecules (presence of hydrogen bonds network) can
>>> play an important role.
>>>
>>> Success!
>>> Bartek
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:32 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] Energy flauctuation in MD
>>>
>>> Hi Bartek
>>> i am planning to optimize the net structure (16H2O + Formaamide)  after i
>>> "shake" the unit cell with those water molecules only
>>> random distribution of water molecules were chosen alone firstly,
>>> I really do not know if i need to optimize H2O molecules before MD run?
>>>
>>> yours,
>>> sufian
>>> >
>>> > Hi Sufian,
>>> >
>>> > My guess is the geometry being too far from optimal. Have you optimized
>>> > the system (atomic coordinates and/or cell size) before the MD run?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Bartek
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________________
>>> > From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
>>> > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:58 AM
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Cc: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] Energy flauctuation in MD
>>> >
>>> >  Hi Andrey
>>> >
>>> >  I have 16-H2O molecule in my unit cell, i am trying to cool the system
>>> >  down from 1000K to 300K to be more realistic. The problem still there,
>>> > the
>>> >  temperature goes very high and won't stop at the target temperature, i
>>> >  tried to use annealing, Nose,... all those options give the same
>>> problem,
>>> >  i am wondering if there is any unseen option that can be used to fix
>>> this
>>> >  problem?
>>> >
>>> >  yours,
>>> >  sufain
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi Sufian,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How many molecules does your "bunch" contain? It's normal to have
>>> >>> temperature fluctuations of ~T/sqrt(N), where N is the number of
>>> >>> particles. Also I encountered non-physical temperature fluctuations
>>> >>> when initial temperature of run was not equal to final temperature.
>>> >>> Seems that Nose thermostat in Siesta is not capable to implement
>>> >>> temperature gradients. And the final remark - if you want to model
>>> >>> gas-liquid phase transition, Siesta might not be the right tool to do
>>> >>> it, since it needs a big supercell and large simulation time.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Andrey.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Dear Siesta Users
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I am trying to run a molecular dynamics simulation for a bunch of
>>> H2O
>>> >>>> molecules,i chose the Tini =800 K and Tfin= 300 K  my run starts
>>> >>>> normally for the first one or two steps. but after that a huge
>>> >>>> fluctuations in temperature appear, it reached a couple of thousands
>>> >>>> of kelvins i,tried many options but i still has the same problem,
>>> >>>> can any body assist me in this problem?
>>> >>>> Thank you all,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> sufian
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >
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>>> >
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