Kawabata-san (and maybe Randy),

So, can you support it if I will revise it as follows?


2. SIG Chair's term of service
 I would like to propose revising SIG Chair's term of service as follows.
 - Elections occur yearly. Chair elections and Co-Chair elections occur in
alternate years (same as current SIG guideline)
 - If Chair election and Co-Chair election are happen in same
year, Co-Chair's (or Co-Chairs') term of service should be one year
   as Chair's and Co-Chairs' term of service are staggered
 - If current Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed, the succesor's
term should be remaining term of current Chair/Co-Chair


Any thought?

Regards,
Matt



2016-09-28 15:52 GMT+09:00 Hiroki Kawabata <[email protected]>:


> 2. SIG Chair's term of service
>> I would like to propose aligning Chair' term with Co-Chair's term, which
>> means that Chair and all Co-Chair will serve for same two years.
>> To keep this alighment, I would like to propose limiting the successor's
>> term to remaining term of current Chair/Co-Chair if current
>> Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed.
>>
>>
> If ALL current Chair/Co-Chair resigne or are removed at the same time
> and the another successor who don't know or share the background and
> situations of this forum become New Chair/Co-Chair, who do care for them?
>
> At the point of the stable/continuous forum management,
> I think that there is no need to revise the part of this guideline.
>
> Regards,
> Hiroki
>
>
> Subject: [sig-policy] Proposal to revise SIG guidelines
> From: Adam Gosling <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon Sep 05 2016 19:08:46 GMT+0900
>
>
>
>> Dear SIG members
>>
>> A proposal to modify the APNIC SIG Guidelines relating to the election
>> of SIG Chairs and Co-Chairs has been submitted for consideration at
>> APNIC 42 im Colombo, Sri Lanka.
>>
>>    https://www.apnic.net/sig-chair-elections/proposed-revision.txt
>>
>> If agreed. these changes will affect all APNIC SIGs from APNIC 43 in Ho
>> Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
>>
>> Discussion and call for consensus will take place in the Policy SIG.
>>
>>    https://www.apnic.net/mailinglists
>>
>> If successful in the Policy SIG, a consensus call will be made at the
>> APNIC Member Meeting. There will be no final Comment Period.
>>
>> To ensure those not travelling to APNIC 42 are able to participate in
>> the discussion, you are invited to comment on the Policy SIG Mailing
>> List before the conference.
>>
>> More background to this proposal is available at:
>>
>>    https://www.apnic.net/community/participate/sigs/chair-elections
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Revising eligible voters of Chair election and Chair's term
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Proposer:       Masato Yamanishi
>>                [email protected]
>>
>>
>> 1. Problem statement
>> --------------------
>>
>> 1. Eligible voters in SIG Chair election
>> In current SIG guidelines, we have no rule or guideline about eligible
>> voters in SIG Chair election and we have two issues by the lack of such
>> rule.
>>
>> Firstly, we need to have clear guideline whether remote participants
>> have voting rights for SIG Chair election since current practice is
>> different in each election.
>>
>> Secondary, it can be used by fraud, like hijacking the position of Chair
>> agaist the Community by inviting many persons who never attend the
>> community discussion.
>>
>> 2. SIG Chair's term of service
>> While SIG guidelines says "Elections occur yearly. Chair elections and
>> Co-Chair elections occur in alternate years.", both elections were held
>> at same meeting in many cases, in particular when a current Co-Chair
>> stand for the position of Chair. With this current practice having both
>> elections at same meeting, we are not seeing any significant issues for
>> long time.
>>
>> In addition, there is no alternative condition for the successor's term
>> if current Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed though such
>> alternative condition is necessary to maintain staggered term as
>> requested by SIG guideline. (a.k.a. the successor's term of service is
>> same as remaining term of resigned or removed Chair)
>>
>>
>> 2. Objective of policy change
>> -----------------------------
>>
>> The objective is preventing confusions related to remote participant as
>> well as mitigating possible frauds in SIG Chair election by setting
>> clear rule for eligible voters.
>>
>> In addition, we can also expect aligning SIG guideline with current
>> practice as well as resolving unclearness of the successor's term when
>> current Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed by revising SIG Chair's
>> term of service.
>>
>>
>> 3. Situation in other regions
>> -----------------------------
>>
>> Please refer following page made by Adam Gosling
>>
>> Comparison of RIR SIG/WG Chair Election Processes
>> https://www.apnic.net/sig-guidelines/chair-elections/other-rirs
>>
>>
>> 4. Proposed policy solution
>> ---------------------------
>>
>> 1. Eligible voters in SIG Chair election
>> I would like to propose limiting eligible voters of SIG Chair election
>> to registered participants of APNIC Conference where the election is
>> held.
>>
>> In this context, registered participants include remote participants who
>> register to Confer, or its successor in future.
>>
>> 2. SIG Chair's term of service
>> I would like to propose aligning Chair' term with Co-Chair's term, which
>> means that Chair and all Co-Chair will serve for same two years.
>> To keep this alighment, I would like to propose limiting the successor's
>> term to remaining term of current Chair/Co-Chair if current
>> Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
>> -----------------------------
>>
>> Advantages:
>> By setting clear rule for eligible voters,
>>
>>  - we can avoid confusion whether remote participant cast vote for SIG
>>    Chair election or not
>>  - we can mitigate frauds in SIG Chair election
>>
>> By revising SIG Chair's term of service
>>  - we can resolve a conflict between SIG guideline and current practice
>>  - we can resolve unclearness of the successor's term when current
>>    Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed
>>
>>
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>> APNIC staff may need to spend some additional time to confirm whether
>> each voter is registered participants.
>>
>> There is no disadvantage by revising SIG Chair's term of service.
>>
>>
>> 6. Impact on resource holders
>> -----------------------------
>>
>> No direct impact
>>
>>
>> 7. References
>> -------------
>>
>> Chair Election Procedure Review by Adam Gosling
>> https://www.apnic.net/community/participate/sigs/chair-elections
>>
>> Comparison of RIR SIG/WG Chair Election Processes
>> https://www.apnic.net/sig-guidelines/chair-elections/other-rirs
>>
>> APNIC SIG Guidelines
>> https://www.apnic.net/community/participate/sigs/sig-guidelines
>>
>>
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