Is there any data indicating:
a) the number of legacy resources currently in use (as in, visible in
the global table), but not yet claimed through this process
b) the number of legacy resource claims that have been attempted but
not successfully justified
I am aware that this has remained a topic of concern for a number of
APNIC members and technical engineers, and many have been working with
APNIC to try and resolve resource allocations with various degrees of
success.
Andrew
On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 09:36, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Sunny, all,
Just summited a new proposal version amending the editorial inputs
and also adding the following text:
“Furthermore, from 1^st January 2023, all historical resources
need to be maintained in a current APNIC account. In the event of
an account closure, the historical resource will be placed in a
quarantine period and then made available for re-delegation
similar to current resources.”
Also, in order to facilitate the job, I agree that will be safer
to move to a single option with 12 months, so I’ve deleted the “2
choices” in the new version.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 23/8/22, 6:51, "Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi" <[email protected]>
escribió:
Hi all,
This is the secretariat's impact assessment for prop-147-v001,
which is also
available on the proposal page.
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-147
APNIC understands that this proposal suggests that historical IPv4
resources be justified and claimed, or that they be made available
to other organizations that require them.
APNIC also notes the deletion of Section 4.2.1. Recovery of unused
historical resources. As reported to the community at APNIC 50,
this may no longer be applicable once the project is completed,
possibly by the end of 2022.
https://conference.apnic.net/50/assets/files/APCS790/Reclaiming-unused-IPv4.pdf
*Recommendations:*
For consistency of language and to align with the current policy
document, the reference to "available pool" could be changed to
"free pool". Also the reference to "original resource holder" and
"original custodians" could be changed to "custodian/s".
Given the number of uncontactable resource holders, the 12-month
option would be safer for APNIC to implement, as some historical
resource holders may not be aware of the changes to the treatment
of historical resources until they are placed into reserved status
on January 1, 2023.
*Clarification:*
This proposal only addresses historical resources that have not
been claimed by January 1st, 2023. It does not specify what
happens to the historical resources that are claimed, but the
Member or Non-Member account is not renewed after January 1, 2023.
These resources will be considered historical and may remain in
reserve status indefinitely.
Regards,
Sunny
APNIC Secretariat
On 11/08/2022 4:59 pm, chku wrote:
Dear SIG members,
The proposal "prop-147: Historical Resources Management" has been
sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 54 on
Thursday, 15 September 2022.
https://conference.apnic.net/54/program/schedule/#/day/8
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
before the OPM.
The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important
part of the Policy Development Process (PDP). We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal?
- Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
tell the community about your situation.
- Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
- Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
- What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
effective?
Information about this proposal is appended below as well as available
at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-147
Regards,
Bertrand, Shaila, and Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
---------------------------------------------------------------
prop-147-v001: Historical Resources Management
----------------------------------------------------------------
Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez ([email protected])
Anupam Agrawal ([email protected])
1. Problem statement
--------------------
Section 4.2.1 is outdated and only looking for very old non-routed
resources.
The recent EC resolution (22nd February 2022), imply that historical
resource holders in the APNIC region would need to become Members or
Non-Members by 1st January 2023 in order to receive registration services.
Failing this, historical resource registration will no longer be published in
the APNIC Whois Database and said resources will be placed into reserved status.
Given the continued need for IPv4 addresses, it would seem illogical to
keep these unused historical resources in reserve indefinitely. Alternatively,
these resources can be used in a way that is sufficiently justified in
accordance with existing policies, allowing other organizations to benefit from
them during the IPv6 transition.
2. Objective of policy change
-----------------------------
Ensure that historical IPv4 resources are justified and claimed, or
that they are available for other organizations that require them.
If the resources are marked as reserved, the original holders may
reclaim them with a valid justification, when APNIC failed to contact them for
whatever reason.
One example of a valid justification is the case where an organization
is actually using them internally and there are valid reasons to instead use
RFC1918 space, however the space is not routed.
To give the original resource holders more time to reclaim them, we
propose two time-frames for the community discussion and consideration: 6
months and 12 months.
3. Situation in other regions
-----------------------------
In other RIRs legacy resources lose their legacy status when the RSA is
signed (upon receiving other resources), so they become under the regular
monitoring. In other cases, there is nothing specified by policies.
4. Proposed policy solution
---------------------------
Proposed policy solution (option 6-months):
Actual text:
4.2.1. Recovery of unused historical resources (remove)
To recover these globally un-routed resources and place them back in
the free pool for re-delegation, APNIC will contact networks responsible for
historical address space in the APNIC region that has not been globally routed
since 1 January 1998.
To recover un-routed historical AS numbers, APNIC will contact networks
responsible for resources not globally used for a reasonable period of time.
Proposed text:
4.3. Historical Resources Management
Historical resources that have not been claimed by the original
resource holder will be deleted from the APNIC Whois database after 1st January
2023, and marked as reserved.
Historical resources marked as reserved have an additional six (6)
months to be claimed by their original custodians. After that, APNIC will add
these resources to the available pool for re-delegation.
Proposed policy solution (option 12-months):
Actual text:
4.2.1. Recovery of unused historical resources (remove)
To recover these globally un-routed resources and place them back in
the free pool for re-delegation, APNIC will contact networks responsible for
historical address space in the APNIC region that has not been globally routed
since 1 January 1998.
To recover un-routed historical AS numbers, APNIC will contact networks
responsible for resources not globally used for a reasonable period of time.
Proposed text:
4.3. Historical Resources Management
Historical resources that have not been claimed by the original
resource holder will be deleted from the APNIC Whois database after 1st January
2023, and marked as reserved.
Historical resources marked as reserved have an additional twelve (12)
months to be claimed by their original custodians. After that, APNIC will add
these resources to the available pool for re-delegation.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages
-----------------------------
Advantages:
Fulfilling the objective above indicated.
Disadvantages:
None.
6. Impact on resource holders
-----------------------------
None.
7. References
-------------
None.
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