Hi Jordi, Aftab,

I have summarised the process APNIC uses to add/remove prefixes from APNIC AS0 
ROA. This may help explain why you did not find some of the prefixes in AS0 ROA.

Once a prefix is marked as 'reserved' it is added into AS0 ROA after 7 days to 
cause as little disruption as possible and avoid any inadvertent actions. Where 
possible, we also aggregate the prefixes that are added into AS0 ROA. When a 
prefix is delegated to a Member, it is removed from AS0 within 5 minute window.

As per our implementation of APNIC EC resolution 2021-09, any historical 
resources that are not maintained under an APNIC account will be removed from 
whois and marked as reserved on 1 January, 2023. 7 days after that, those 
reserved prefixes will be added into AS0 ROA.

Thanks
Vivek

From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 6:51 pm
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [sig-policy] Re: prop-147-v001: Historical Resources Management
Question for the staff on this. Is the AS0 proposal not sufficient to comply 
with Aftab observation, or it is just something in the backlog of pending 
secretariat activities, or what is the reason for that?



Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet



El 30/8/22, 3:48, "Aftab Siddiqui" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> escribió:

Hi Vivek,

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 18:15, Vivek Nigam 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Aftab,

APNIC creates RPKI ROAs with origin AS0 for all undelegated address space 
(marked as “Available” and “Reserved” in the delegated-apnic-extended-latest 
stats file. It may be worth noting that APNIC publishes these AS0 ROAs in a 
different Trust Anchor (AS0 TAL) and recommends its Members use APNIC AS0 TAL 
as a routing information service only.

https://www.apnic.net/community/security/resource-certification/apnic-limitations-of-liability-for-rpki-2/


That is incorrect, there are more than 160 IPv4 prefixes (I haven't checked v6 
yet) which are marked as either "reserved" or "available" in the APNIC 
delegation file and they don't exist in AS-0 ROA. So there must be some policy 
which is in place.

delegate file: 2.3|apnic|20220830|158240||20220829|+1000
AS0 ROA: SigningTime:    2022-08-30T01:10:15Z

Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui



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