Hi Gaurav, 

They are currently marked as allocated/assigned. 

Thanks 
Vivek 

From: Gaurav Kansal <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 4:23 pm
To: Vivek Nigam <[email protected]>
Cc: Sanjeev Gupta <[email protected]>, Rajesh Chharia <[email protected]>, 
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Re: Prop-152-v001: Reduce the IPv4 delegation from 
/23 to /24 

So, are those 2 million in the available/allocated category in apnic public 
database ? or in any other specific one or not in a public database at all ? 




On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 at 11:48, Vivek Nigam <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 

Hi Gaurav, 

Over 2 million historical IPs have still not been claimed under an APNIC 
account. At this stage it's hard to say how many of these will get reserved but 
we will share the stats at APNIC 56. It's worth noting that even after these 
resources are marked as reserved, the custodians have 12 months to prove 
custodianship and claim them. 

Thanks 
Vivek 

From: Gaurav Kansal <[email protected] <_blank>>
Date: Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 2:15 pm
To: Vivek Nigam <[email protected] <_blank>>
Cc: Sanjeev Gupta <[email protected] <_blank>>, Rajesh Chharia <[email protected] 
<_blank>>, [email protected] <_blank> <[email protected] 
<_blank>>
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Re: Prop-152-v001: Reduce the IPv4 delegation from 
/23 to /24 

In 2022, there were IPv4 2247 allocations and a total of 10,41,408 IPs were 
allocated. In 2023 to date, there are 1061 allocations and 4,71,296 IPs are 
allocated. 
Currently, 12,97,664 IPs are marked as reserved in the APNIC database. With the 
current pace, these segments will last for roughly 15-18 months, without any 
further recovery of IP segments (the secretariat can share their views about 
the possibility of further recovery). 



With this policy and the current pace of allocation (i.e., around 2250 
allocations per year ), the reserved segments will last for 24-30 months. But 
this policy can push for the current member organisations to grab their /23 
segments immediately (as per the current 103/8 policy) and can lead to the 
depletion of IPs way before, like the way urgency was seen at the time of 
implementation of 103/8 policy. 





Regards, 

Gaurav 











On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 at 06:31, Vivek Nigam <[email protected] <_blank>> wrote: 

Hi all, 

When APNIC reclaims IPv4 addresses as a result of account closures or voluntary 
returns, they go through a quarantine period for 12 months during which they 
are marked as reserved. After 12 months we change the status of those resources 
to 'Available' so they can be delegated to Members again. Based on recent 
recycling stats, in average we are recycling around 9,000 addresses a month. 

As you may be aware, from this year we have started reserving unclaimed 
historical IPv4 space as part of implementing the EC Resolution 2021-12. 

https://2023.apricot.net/assets/files/APPS314/apricot2023productsa_1677543743.pdf
 <_blank> 

Around 700,000 IPv4 addresses were reserved in February this year. As per 
policy 4.3. Claiming and re-delegating historical resources, these reserved 
addresses won't be made available for delegation until February 2024 by which 
time the outcome of this policy proposal may already be determined. 

Thanks 
Vivek 

From: Sanjeev Gupta <[email protected] <_blank>>
Date: Monday, 24 July 2023 at 6:29 pm
To: Rajesh Chharia <[email protected] <_blank>>
Cc: G <[email protected] <_blank>>, [email protected] <_blank> 
<[email protected] <_blank>>
Subject: [sig-policy] Re: Prop-152-v001: Reduce the IPv4 delegation from /23 to 
/24 

Wait, you can do that? 



Well, I would like to request the APNIC EC for a /12 (although I am not greedy, 
will take a /18 if they are a bit short this week). Is there a form for this? 
Online? https://my.apnic/net/forms/O_PONY.html <_blank> doesn't work for me. 



But seriously, I hope someone said no, and documented it, or a few years from 
now AFRINIC members will be watching our proceedings. 



-- 
Sanjeev Gupta
+65 98551208 http://sg.linkedin.com/in/ghane <_blank> 







On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 12:21 PM Rajesh Chharia <[email protected] <_blank>> 
wrote: 

Dear Gaurav,

I have requested APNIC EC to put a temporary halt on moving the resources from 
the reserve to available till this proposal outcome is determined.

Regards
Rajesh Chharia 

> On 24-Jul-2023, at 05:30, G <[email protected] <_blank>> wrote:
> 
> Returned/Reclaimed IP segments remains in 'Reserved' category for only one 
> year (APNIC secretariat can correct me, if i am wrong) . Before the depletion 
> of 'Available' pool, most of the current segments under 'Reserved' pool will 
> already be moved to 'Available' category.
> 
> So, whether the policy authors wants to not to move the 'Reserved' pool in 
> 'Available' category or this policy will only applies on the segments 
> available in 'Reserved' pool at the time of depletion of 'available' one ?
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