On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Patrick Lang wrote:
> Actually, I'm not worried about TV + CRT simultaneously. What I need is 2
> CRT's with one desktop, be able to drag windows between them (KDE is my
> WM/desktop) on a regular basis w/ Xinerama. I would not be using the TV at
> the same time as the rest of the setup, or would want it to be a seperate
> desktop. I just figured since I'm planning to buy a new board, a TV-out
> would be nice for the occasional divx.
>
> Another q:
> Most of the radeons I've seen have 1 flat panel, 1 crt, 1 tv. Can you
> convert the flat panel to a regular CRT?
Yes it comes with an adapter to plug a normal vga cable on the DVI ouput,
but I've never been able to get this card to work in Xwindows and I don't
think it will work for another few years. (ATI doesn't care about Linux
users as much as NVidia sorta cares)
I emailed ATI about it and they basically said that they don't support
Linux and that they might in the future.
I'm guessing never....
If anyone has gotten this to work, please email me..... I've tried asking
everyone (ATI, video4linux people, etc)
Jacob Brown
>
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday 26 February 2002 04:57 pm, Chun-Chi Jonathan Chen wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I have been on the list for a couple years now, but I rarely join
> > our wonderful discussions (okay I am so lazy). I think this is my first
> > post in a year? ;)
> >
> > Austin, my question is that are you running two distinct x-server
> > processes on two crts? Or are you extending your current desktop onto
> > another one (which means 1 x-server process). I will be interested to
> > know how you accomplish the first one. Probably (two framebuffers?)
> >
> > The first approach creates one large [non-regular] resolution, say
> > 2048x768. The first crt will occupy left 1024x768 and the second crt will
> > occupy the right 1024x768. Having two cards with same capability will
> > make things a lot easier. On my box, I have a low-end, salvaged S3 card
> > with 1MB vmem. One thing Xinerama makes you to do (at least I don't have
> > a solution for it) is to have both crts running the same depth. So what
> > happened is that I can't get 2048x768 working. You will have to calculate
> > before hand how big do you want your geometry look like. So I have
> >
> > +---------------+-+-+-+-+-+-+767
> >
> > | +-+-+-+-+-+-+ 480
> >
> > +---------------+-----------+ 0
> >
> > 0 1023 1023+640
> >
> > The shaded area is not displayable. You can set the virtual size to a big
> > one and be able to use that area but I wouldn't recommend it cuz last time
> > I try it will segv fault my mplayer. You want to have the virtual size as
> > the same as above (1024+640x768), then you window manager will be prone to
> > problems.
> >
> > With some creativity, you can move the smaller res on top of the large one
> > or any direction yout want. I find this arragement works well for me.
> >
> > You can get greedy, and I am not sure if I got it working or not, is that
> > you can chain 3 screens together in the following order: (on top of
> > normal, geforce2 mx tv out) -> (normal, geforce2mx crt out) -> (to the
> > right of normal, ati-radeon). I don't have a second montior to test my
> > setting but I bet chances that it works is great.
> >
> > Here is a problem, I am yet to figure out how to switch my core-mouse0 and
> > core-keyboard0 gracefully between screens. When I enable full screen on
> > the TV (640x480) it will lock my core-inputs until I quit the movie.
> > Not helpful right? My goal is like yours, Patrick, to play divx on TV and
> > edit my files on my crt. Well, maybe you can get away if you have a usb
> > keyboard on core-input1 and include it when you fired up Xinerama. Again,
> > I don't have hardware to test it out.
> >
> > Enlightenment is by far the best wm to support xinerama. I use IceWm,
> > which works for me. Hmm...WindowMaking works I think but I didn't check.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Austin Bingham wrote:
> > > We've used xinerama here to great effect. Before xinerama, we were using
> > > some third-party x-server, so we already had the hardware set up. Getting
> > > xinerama to work took me all of about 10 minutes (including reading the
> > > howto). Our video cards were some mid-line Matrox cards, both identical
> > > (I don't remember the model off-hand).
> > >
> > > Xinerama did everything I asked of it, and ran our two monitor system for
> > > over a week at sea with no hitches. While I don't have *extensive*
> > > experience with it, the experience I do have left me with a good, fuzzy
> > > feeling inside. The only thing to look out for, I think, is window
> > > manager stuff...not all WMs are xinerama-aware, so you can get wierd
> > > effects. Sawfish mostly works, and Enlightenment probably does, too. Good
> > > luck.
> > >
> > > Austin Bingham
> > > Applied Research Laboratories
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > I'm looking for personal opinions on Geforce2 MX and ATI Radeon
> > > > (ve/7k/7.5k) boards. I need dual CRT's for my (in progress) home music
> > > > studio, and a TV-out for playing DiVX on a big-screen, and I would like
> > > > to use both monitors in linux ;) Has anyone here personally set up
> > > > Xinerama?
> > > >
> > > > I'm also looking for general opinions on them as 2D boards. I've given
> > > > up gaming and don't care about GL or Direct3d, so I'm looking for
> > > > stability and compatibility in both linux and windoze (98), AGP (I need
> > > > the PCI bandwidth for a raid controller, multichannel audio, etc) so no
> > > > 'just buy another pci video card'.
> > >
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