I was under the impression that ATI had better support than nvidia. I don't 
keep up with either drivers though.

Spencer

On Tuesday 26 February 2002 5:43, Jacob Brown wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Patrick Lang wrote:
> > Actually, I'm not worried about TV + CRT simultaneously.  What I need is
> > 2 CRT's with one desktop, be able to drag windows between them (KDE is my
> > WM/desktop) on a regular basis w/ Xinerama.  I would not be using the TV
> > at the same time as the rest of the setup, or would want it to be a
> > seperate desktop.  I just figured since I'm planning to buy a new board,
> > a TV-out would be nice for the occasional divx.
> >
> > Another q:
> > Most of the radeons I've seen have 1 flat panel, 1 crt, 1 tv.  Can you
> > convert the flat panel to a regular CRT?
>
> Yes it comes with an adapter to plug a normal vga cable on the DVI ouput,
> but I've never been able to get this card to work in Xwindows and I don't
> think it will work for another few years.  (ATI doesn't care about Linux
> users as much as NVidia sorta cares)
> I emailed ATI about it and they basically said that they don't support
> Linux and that they might in the future.
> I'm guessing never....
>
> If anyone has gotten this to work, please email me..... I've tried asking
> everyone (ATI, video4linux people, etc)
>
> Jacob Brown
>
> > Patrick
> >
> > On Tuesday 26 February 2002 04:57 pm, Chun-Chi Jonathan Chen wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >   I have been on the list for a couple years now, but I rarely join
> > > our wonderful discussions (okay I am so lazy).  I think this is my
> > > first post in a year? ;)
> > >
> > >   Austin, my question is that are you running two distinct x-server
> > > processes on two crts?  Or are you extending your current desktop onto
> > > another one (which means 1 x-server process).  I will be interested to
> > > know how you accomplish the first one.  Probably (two framebuffers?)
> > >
> > >   The first approach creates one large [non-regular] resolution, say
> > > 2048x768.  The first crt will occupy left 1024x768 and the second crt
> > > will occupy the right 1024x768.  Having two cards with same capability
> > > will make things a lot easier.  On my box, I have a low-end, salvaged
> > > S3 card with 1MB vmem.  One thing Xinerama makes you to do (at least I
> > > don't have a solution for it) is to have both crts running the same
> > > depth.  So what happened is that I can't get 2048x768 working.  You
> > > will have to calculate before hand how big do you want your geometry
> > > look like.  So I have
> > >
> > > +---------------+-+-+-+-+-+-+767
> > >
> > > |               +-+-+-+-+-+-+ 480
> > >
> > > +---------------+-----------+  0
> > >
> > > 0              1023     1023+640
> > >
> > > The shaded area is not displayable.  You can set the virtual size to a
> > > big one and be able to use that area but I wouldn't recommend it cuz
> > > last time I try it will segv fault my mplayer.  You want to have the
> > > virtual size as the same as above (1024+640x768), then you window
> > > manager will be prone to problems.
> > >
> > > With some creativity, you can move the smaller res on top of the large
> > > one or any direction yout want.  I find this arragement works well for
> > > me.
> > >
> > > You can get greedy, and I am not sure if I got it working or not, is
> > > that you can chain 3 screens together in the following order: (on top
> > > of normal, geforce2 mx tv out) -> (normal, geforce2mx crt out) -> (to
> > > the right of normal, ati-radeon).  I don't have a second montior to
> > > test my setting but I bet chances that it works is great.
> > >
> > > Here is a problem, I am yet to figure out how to switch my core-mouse0
> > > and core-keyboard0 gracefully between screens.  When I enable full
> > > screen on the TV (640x480) it will lock my core-inputs until I quit the
> > > movie. Not helpful right?  My goal is like yours, Patrick, to play divx
> > > on TV and edit my files on my crt.  Well, maybe you can get away if you
> > > have a usb keyboard on core-input1 and include it when you fired up
> > > Xinerama.  Again, I don't have hardware to test it out.
> > >
> > > Enlightenment is by far the best wm to support xinerama.  I use IceWm,
> > > which works for me.  Hmm...WindowMaking works I think but I didn't
> > > check.
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Austin Bingham wrote:
> > > > We've used xinerama here to great effect. Before xinerama, we were
> > > > using some third-party x-server, so we already had the hardware set
> > > > up. Getting xinerama to work took me all of about 10 minutes
> > > > (including reading the howto). Our video cards were some mid-line
> > > > Matrox cards, both identical (I don't remember the model off-hand).
> > > >
> > > > Xinerama did everything I asked of it, and ran our two monitor system
> > > > for over a week at sea with no hitches. While I don't have
> > > > *extensive* experience with it, the experience I do have left me with
> > > > a good, fuzzy feeling inside. The only thing to look out for, I
> > > > think, is window manager stuff...not all WMs are xinerama-aware, so
> > > > you can get wierd effects. Sawfish mostly works, and Enlightenment
> > > > probably does, too. Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > Austin Bingham
> > > > Applied Research Laboratories
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > > I'm looking for personal opinions on Geforce2 MX and ATI Radeon
> > > > > (ve/7k/7.5k) boards.  I need dual CRT's for my (in progress) home
> > > > > music studio, and a TV-out for playing DiVX on a big-screen, and I
> > > > > would like to use both monitors in linux ;)  Has anyone here
> > > > > personally set up Xinerama?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm also looking for general opinions on them as 2D boards.  I've
> > > > > given up gaming and don't care about GL or Direct3d, so I'm looking
> > > > > for stability and compatibility in both linux and windoze (98), AGP
> > > > > (I need the PCI bandwidth for a raid controller, multichannel
> > > > > audio, etc) so no 'just buy another pci video card'.
> > > >
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