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On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Boy, you have a lot to learn about list dynamics - even after scouring the
> list archives for people that you want to proactively block and announce
> that you're doing so.
>
> May I suggest that you take that apparently super sized chip off your
> shoulder and check it at the door while participating on silklist?  Helps
> with that "assume goodwill" thing Udhay keeps harping on as the single
> greatest rule on this list
>
> --srs
>
> > On 10-Sep-2015, at 6:04 am, James Bonilla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't be surprised if the other person, thus far unnamed, was found
> > "in the wrong" - IF that other person was non-white. White people,
> somehow,
> > seem to have this advantage.
> >
> > And this is due to implicit biases, which happens to be a reasonably well
> > studied area of psychology.
>
>
All- Wow! This is exactly what I was talking about. This is the "Invisible
Man" phenomenon. (Reference to Langston Hughes, FTW!). Basically, black
guys and Hispanic guys are almost always routinely dismissed when they
present certain types of evidence related to race.

Suresh - there is absolutely no chip on my shoulder. If you want to have a
serious discussion about this, it is not possible to do so while Person A
is an admin and Person B is not. The best place for discussing whether or
not race plays into Internet discussions is certainly not this List. There
is plenty of evidence from psychology that race plays a *huge* role in how
people are perceived, even on the Internet.

If you would like to have a serious discussion about this (and not a
dismissive "you have a huge chip on your shoulder"), then a group where one
can do so without any admins involved would be best. That is if you want to
discuss based on facts and evidence, much of which has been accumulate by
researchers - and this too, fairly recently (I am not seeking to imply that
you are not aware of this - you may be - instead, I am seeking to show that
you are not following the logic here). Many a time have I requested people
on Buddhist debate groups, especially admins, to thrash out things on the
Buddhist Debate Group. There are no admins there. I can explain this to you
in much greater detail out there.

All-

In other words, there are many phenomenons related to race, and this is
just one of them. There is no reason for anyone to doubt this or deny this.
Indeed, it is about as true and statistically valid as other psychological
effects, such as the endowment effect, the Prospect Theory effect, et
cetera.

Cc:ing BubblyS, who can also help you understand this better.

Bubbly - please get back to Suresh in case he emails you.
- James

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