> All- Wow! This is exactly what I was talking about. This is the "Invisible
> Man" phenomenon. (Reference to Langston Hughes, FTW!). Basically, black

The reference is kind of obvious now that you mention it.  And no, this is 
nothing to do with color or race. Not when most of the people on this list are 
people of color, to use that trite but conveniently catchall term. Including me.

> guys and Hispanic guys are almost always routinely dismissed when they
> present certain types of evidence related to race.

Do you postulate then, that such dismissals are routine only in the case of 
black and hispanic people?

> Suresh - there is absolutely no chip on my shoulder. If you want to have a
> serious discussion about this, it is not possible to do so while Person A
> is an admin and Person B is not. The best place for discussing whether or

When person A (aka Udhay) is *the* admin on silk, when he wants to speak as an 
admin, which is very rarely, he makes that explicitly clear.  The rest of the 
time he is another list member is all, and a good guy to drink beer with.

—srs

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