Scott Berner wrote: > Welcome, Max! You would probably like the book written by Dr.Robert Becker > entitled ""THE BODY ELECTRIC"". His work with cancer was most interesting. > He claims that with the use of silver, the cancer cells actually cnanged > back to normal cells.
I have his book! I will re-read it. It didnt register with me at the time of reading that silver was mentioned. I was more interested in bio-electricity when I bought his book. On page 165 he says that it is the positive silver ions that kill the bacteria (driven off the silver electrode). He goes on to say, "This is an exciting discovery, because no single antibiotic worked against all kinds of bacteria...." > Perhaps he should try again without using an electrolyte? I would be very > interested if he would make the solution using my catalyst of H2O2. I will > send you my protocol, if you would like it. He is a very busy man. But I am already working on this. He is about to test the Swiss commercial preparation I mentioned - so I will wait a while. > It is used extensively in burn centers, as well. Yes I heard this! So why do we hear of patients in hospitals seriously ill with golden staph? It is unnecessary. Why arent they using it!? > Do you have any specific referances to research done on this? Yes, there are a number of patents on this. Go to the IBM Patent Search facility (Free!) at "http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/"; and search for silver, Colloidal Silver, etc. Particularly, lookup patent # 5,336,499 "Molecular Crystal Device For Pharmaceuticals" and also 5,571,520 "Molecular Crystal Redox Device For Pharmaceuticals". These patents describe a method of electrocuting pathogens via an exchange of electrons from a mono-valent to tri-valent silver ions within a molecular xtal of Silver Tetroxide (Ag4O4) in the presence of an oxidising agent. A method for preparing the Ag4O4 is also discussed. Apparently, Tetra Silver tetroxide is commericially available already. It is just the means of use that is being patented here. This process appears to be different from the usual colloidal silver or ion method and they claim they can kill HIV virus using only 18 ppm(!) This research comes from Israel. > So, is it your theory that it is the conversion of the silver particle to > silver oxide that has the antibiotic effect? Am I understanding your > meaning? I suspect that Siver ions are being formed somehere in the chain. But I dont know. I have been told that the CS will go straight through the stomach wall right into the blood stream. It maybe that some form of Silver oxide, maybe even Ag4O4 (I dont know), is being formed during the electrolysis process - especially when using certain types of electrolytes. You can see that the silver emitting electrode goes black during electrolysis due to the formation of an oxide. After all, there is a redox reaction going on here - with reduction occuring at one electrode (with the release of hydrogen and consequently an EXCESS of OH- ions in solution) and oxidation occuring at the other. So there must be either a hydroxide or an oxide being formed at the other electrode. I have had some good feedback from one person who claimed to clear up a bout of Ross-River Fever using one of my electrocoloidal units. He used Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH) as an electrolyte on my recommendation after I did a few tests with it. I found I could make a batch of the golden solution in about 30 secs using NaOH. I attribute the golden colour to the black oxide in suspension (Since the oxide is insoluble). You can see it coming off the positive electrode. Is golden-CS the magical tetra-silver tetroxide referred to in the above patent? Who knows? MAybe someone can do some testing here. > "Petri dishes don't have kidneys!", to coin a phrase! Do the organisms Can you tell me more about the role of the kidney in relation to CS? > It is my understanding that the silver > attacks and disables the enzymes used in "breathing". This way, it is > effective against fungi, bacteria, and viral agents. The need to "breath" > is the common denominator. Any microbiologists out there? I suggest there may be several mechanism going on here. Ions appear to 'do it' and also the oxide - maybe the 2 types of silver operate in different ways. > I have used it topically, and have seen tremendous results, as have > others. Unless there is an oxidizing agent on the skin, it is working > without one. It is used on burn victims, externally, and with wonderful > results. Do you use it in the concentrated form (Straight out of the bottle) or in a diluted form? One member of CISS showed me a skin cancer he is treating after I gave a short talk about CS. He said he using a commercial preparation. He said his cancer is retreating slowly at the edges. He applies it using a bandaid patch soaked in CS. > Higher dose? higher than what? Also, a higher does does not necessarily > equate to a higher concentration. It can also be just a matter of using The recommended dose, If I remember, was 1 teaspoon of the 8 oz 'concentrate' in a glass of water 3 times daily. He increased the dose - maybe double - he didnt elaborate. > Do you have any documentation that the clear colloidal solution is clear > due to smaller particle size. Water is a clear solution, but no particles > of silver. The yellow gold color is said to be the best color by some > leading experts in the field, DR.DeLynn Hansen specifically (Silverado). I can tell you about what I have observed. When I use NaOH I get a golden solution. If I dry this solution on a microscope slide I cannot see any particles - even at highest magnification - I only see the NaOH xtals. When I use dionised water with no electrolyte I get a clear solution (I leave it 'cooking' for about 1/2 hr to 1 hr). I also noted, using this method, that if I leave the CS in the glass overnight, Silver will sometimes plate out on the bottom of the glass indicating that it is pure Silver in suspension (and not an oxide). I attribute the plating action to the release of charge on the Ag particle due to some catalytic effect of an impurity on the glass. We are yet to do more testing on this one. If I use salt (NaCl) as an electrolyte I can see a grey mist coming off the positive electrode. AgCl is grey in colour and very insoluble so it is reasonable to assume that this mist is, in fact, small particles of AgCl in suspension. I have observed these partices under the microscope. They are big (0.1-1 micron in size). > There have been studies done on the formation of silver salts in the > stomach. This is theoretical. I have heard medical opinions too, to the > contrary...that "colloidal silver passes unchanged through the stomach > and into the small intestine." Do you have research findings on this > occuring in the stomach itself? No. This is speculation on my part. If I swallow a silver dollar I would expect stomach acid to dissolve some of the silver away. > Let me just point out, in spite of Mr.Nowell's insistance that we can know > nothing without years of research and millions of dollars, etc., etc.... > The clear fact is simply this, an eye witness account is EVIDENCE accepted > in any court of law. That is, if it is not a KANGAROO COURT. No pun > intended. Of course it is. If it works - use it. But it doesnt hurt to do a bit of research.:-) Perhaps he should try again without using an electrolyte? I would be very interested if he would make the solution using my catalyst of H2O2. I will send you my protocol, if you would like it. Yes! Please send it to me. I will try it. > God Bless, > Scott You too. -- Maxwell. Be reckless! Practice senseless acts of compassion!
