Thank you, Mr. Nowell, for your courtesy of replying to my assertions... > Whatever one takes in is "utilized" or "excreted" by one's bodily > adaptogenic efficiency at the MAXIMUM rate regardless of the > amount.
One of the first things I had to get past when I began looking at CS was the *idiots* who talked about the gross effects of large exposures to silver metal, salts, and other compounds. One valid but irrelevant point they made was that one can experience heavy metal poisoning from large enough concentrations of silver. The quantities discussed are in the range of hundreds of milligrams of ingested silver over short time periods. As you know, Lawrence, such objections do not apply to the ppm and microgram levels the you and I are talking about. If one ingests silver at a rate higher than the body can excrete, blood and tissue levels will, over time, exceed safe levels. However, as you know, there *is* a range of dosage that will result in useful systemic levels without danger. > Agyria was caused from POORLY PREPARED SILVER SOLUTIONS and the > use of SILVER SALTS. I remember reading these reports, on the web sites of some of the above mentioned naysayers. This was turn-of-the-century stuff, where people were using very large amounts of silver and, as you say, toxic salts and contaminated solutions. > The usage in the documentated cases of the above produced agyria > in rare instances after continual daily abuse style usage for 7 to > 14 years and/or from taking the preparations intra-nasally. In other words, neither you nor I are in any danger of agyria or toxicity from the comparitively miniscule amounts, and vastly superior purities of our preparations vis-a-vis the ones you are talking about above. > You cannot use volume homemade silver preparations without > upsetting the electrolyte balance of your system... Scott dealt with this issue adequately. Our solutions are not 1ppm, thank you. And I routinely drink at least 2 quarts of water daily with no ill effects. > ... and disturbing homeostasis of the body from the unknown > homemade contaminants and byproducts introduced by the non > existant quality control that will enevitably also be present in > untested unmonitored homemade solutions. As I said before, I'm willing to be educated on this issue, but... If *all* of the few micrograms of electrolyte needed to speed the process gets turned into a few micrograms of silver salts, are we not still several orders of magnitude away from toxic levels? > Kidneys have nothing to do with the efficacy of an antibiotic. > Excretion is a totally different matter. Given that the kidneys are among the organs whose job it is to *excrete* waste products and excess water, I don't quite know what you're getting at here! > Correct blood-silver microgram/L concentrations are the only determining > factor regarding the killing of an invader pathogen as substanciated by data > (without getting into the hypothetical topic of adjuncts to remove the outer > protein surface coating of the pathogen). > One just cannot kill a pathogen without a certain concentration of silver > being present to interfer with the enzymes and/or respiratory system of that > organism much in the same way that an acid cannot penetrate a metal unless a > certain concentration is used. All of which I accept as self-evident. But we're talking about microgram/L concentrations in the *blood*, not the bottle, right? So you have not yet convinced me that I cannot establish and maintain beneficial concentrations of silver in the blood and tissues by consumption of a lower concetration preparation. Nor have you shown me that contaminants and toxic salts are present in any dangerous, if even measurable, quantities. By way of worthwhile education, perhaps you can guide me. Where can I find the applicable toxicity standards for silver salts and other compounds? Is it the Merck index that contains that kind of information? I appreciate your taking the time to reply, Mr. Nowell. Thank you for an interesting discussion. Mike Devour [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [[email protected] ] [Speaking only for himself... ]
