Ok if you want smaller particles then just limit the current and you should
be able to get your 80 ppm however it will take a lot longer... To hold the
current to say 10 ma (milliamperes) or less just us the formula R=V/I (ohms
law) where resistance R is in ohms,  voltage V is in volts and current I is
in amps (milliamperes is thousandths of an amp). So for 3 9V batteries
(3x9=27V) we have R= 27,000 ohms or  27k (27/0.001). The colour bands on
the resister will be red (2), violet (7),orange (000), gold/silver (5/10%
tolerance) 1/4 or 1/2 watt rating will be fine.

Chris Gupta


At 10:12 AM 4/29/98 +00-05, you wrote:
>On 28 Apr 98 at 8:59, [email protected] wrote:
>
>Bob Lee wrote:
>
>> >An 80ppm CS is mostly useless, only a small part of it is small enought
>> >to pass the cell membranes. That part that can pass the membranes is     
>> >equivalent to a 15ppm CS solution.
>
>Fred wrote:
>
>> You are using "ppm" as if it is a measure of particle size.
>> 
>> "ppm" == parts per million; having a higher ppm could mean more of
>> the smaller particles, rather than larger particles.
>
>In context, Bob was generalizing that by the time you get much over 
>15ppm the current will be so high that it is producing undesireably 
>large particles. The smaller particles are still there, but you're 
>wasting time and energy going for "ppm" that won't be used.
>
>With our typical low voltage generator and no salt, you'll start out
>at a trickle of current and build up to many tens of milliamps by the
>time you get to 20 or 30 or more ppm. Bob's contention, which I can
>agree with, is that the longer you let it go and the higher the
>current, the bigger and less useful the particles get.
>
>I've been making stuff in the 20-25 ppm range. When sometimes I've 
>forgotten to turn it off on time I've generated higher ppm batches. 
>These, interestingly enough, tend to "lose" ppm over the days and 
>weeks, moreso than the batches that were run for shorter duration. 
>The indication here is that towards the end of processing, I'm really 
>not generating the small, charged particles that I want to be.
>
>Some folks suggest making no more than a few ppm and just taking a
>lot more. I can agree with this. I certainly plan to explore and
>document it for the web site. Advantages: simplicity; less time to
>produce; less sludge on the cathode; uniformly small(er?) particles.
>Disadvantages? Higher ppm might work better for topical use?
>
>Great discussion, folks!
>
>Mike D.
>
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