Hi Brooks,

   Do you know the results of the experiments that followed Ms. Retalach's?

~^^V^^~ 

At 07:23 PM 6/3/99 -0500, you wrote:
>                Hello Vilik.
>                    Interesting observations.  I would interject one
>admonition, however;  the ORIGINAL plant/music experimentations documented
for
>dissemination to the general public were conducted by Dorothy Retalach of
>Denver, Colorado.........I believe.
>                    Based upon my information, her evaluations were
instigated
>by a second party, who had encountered some unexplainable phenomena
related to
>music and plant growth/health.  Thereafter, she was encouraged to conduct
her,
>now famous, experitments. I was unaware that Ms. Retalach ever made any
public
>statements of a personal bias in music-----one way or the other.  Her
protocols
>have been copied many times since the mid-70s, by various
>individuals.........some of whom have written treatises and books on their
>findings..........and in the process insinuating or claiming THEIR work to be
>original.  While not a pundit in this field, I have been exposed to a
>reasonable amount of fact and primary data.  I am not attempting to be
>adversarial, but would caution all to be suspect of
pontifications--------even
>from me.
>                                    Sincerely.  Brooks.
>
>Vilik Rapheles wrote:
>
>> Just found the following article. Some discussion follows:
>>
>>     HARD ROCK MUSIC CREATES KILLER MICE!
>>   David Merrell, a high school student from Suffolk, Virginia, has won top
>> honors in
>>   regional and state science fairs for his experiment involving mice, a
>> maze and
>>   hard-rock music.
>>
>>   After establishing a baseline of about 10 minutes for the mice to
>> navigate the maze,
>>   David started playing music 10 hours a day, then put the mice through the
>> maze
>>   three times a week for three weeks.
>>
>>   His findings: the control-group mice, which did not listen to any music,
>> were able to
>>   cut five minutes off their time; the mice that listened to classical
>> music cut 8.5
>>   minutes off their time; and the mice that listened to hard-rock music
>> took 20
>>   minutes longer to navigate the maze.
>>
>>   David said, "I had to cut my project short because all the hard-rock mice
>> killed each
>>   other … None of the classical mice did that at all."
>>
>>   ~~~~~~~
>> However...
>>
>> Do you remember the notorious experiment where plants thrived to classical
>> music and withered with rock? Well, subsequently it was determined that the
>> person doing the experiment loved classical music and hated rock. When a
>> person was found who loved rock, and that person did the experiment, the
>> results were reversed.
>>
>> I read the original news story about David and the killer mice. (Washington
>> Times, 2 July 1997.) It was clear he went into the experiment with
>> predetermined beliefs about hard rock.
>>
>>   "Don't let your kids listen to hard rock music," he said. "I think it has
>> a major negative effect." TO PROVE HIS POINT (captials added) David
>> assembled three separate groups of 24 mice..."
>>
>> Kind of calls in question most scientific research, because most scientists
>> go into an experiment with a bias. So...do experiments prove "facts", or do
>> they prove the belief system of the researcher?
>>
>> Hmmm....
>>
>> ~^^V^^~
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