Morning Dennis,

>> At 11:53 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:

I have been a vegetarian for 10 years now and have been useing Braggs liquid aminos to supplement my diet.

I have used this product also. I have been a little skeptical of it because it is not a complete protein and does not contain all the essential amino acids. I would like to see a few rats in a cage given this product to see how long they would live.
( I know.......  Too much Suffering )

If used in combination with a decent variety of food, the combination of the two likely fills the bill on amino acids.

For many years, there were 16 essential amino acids. Now you find 12 as being essential, and other places list 10.

That is why eating a little meat, whey protein, or other complete proteins means the goofy writers that confuse us, can jump in the lake.

I still have doubts that slightly unhealthy people can make the ones that are called Non essential. Supposedly a healthy body can in fact synthesis them, but what about the unhealthy body with an inferior diet?

Virtually every food I eat intentionally, is listed here with amino acid content. http://www.fugitt.com/trailmix.htm

This is all USDA data and one can quickly view a list of amino acids
in a number of common foods. NO MEAT is listed. Nuts, Seeds, and good produce I grow and like............ Peanuts and Sunflower Seeds are near the best source of many things. Almonds and Black Strap are good foods also.

Interesting brief on amino acids.
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Essential amino acids

Humans can produce 10 of the 20 amino acids. The others must be supplied in the food. Failure to obtain enough of even 1 of the 10 essential amino acids, those that we cannot make, results in degradation of the body's proteins ­muscle and so forth­ to obtain the one amino acid that is needed. Unlike fat and starch, the human body does not store excess amino acids for later use­the amino acids must be in the food every day. The essential amino acids include: Arginine, Histidine, Isoleucine, Leucine, lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Trypophan, and Valine. The amino acids arginine, methionine and phenylalanine are considered essential for reasons not directly related to lack of synthesis. Arginine is synthesized by mammalian cells but at a rate that is insufficient to meet the growth needs of the body and the majority that is synthesized is cleaved to form urea. Methionine is required in large amounts to produce cysteine if the latter amino acid is not adequately supplied in the diet. Similarly, phenyalanine is needed in large amounts to form tyrosine if the latter is not adequately supplied in the diet. All the amino acids not listed in this section are non essential amino acids.

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