Ok, I was just about ready to send a whopping big apology to Ode via the list for attributing motivations and intentions that were undeserved - until I cam across this post. This is the one that set me off into a 'rabid' (as someone described it) retaliatory tirade.

The harshness was undeserved, so for that, I do still apologize. But the fact is, the horror of vaccine reactions has hit close to home for me, and it is one of my nuclear buttons...

Allow me to reply to this one again, with a little less emotion...

I can go look at the slides and research, blow by blow "this does that" with piles of repeatable evidence.

A statement that can in no way ever be proven, so is meaningless.

In vitro != in vivo

And of course - no researcher would ever falsify their results of lab tests or research studies in order to gain favor, prestige, money or power... oh, wait - it HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

Also - how many times has it been shown long after the fact that certain studies that have long been quoted as showing one thing, when re-examined by a truly unbiased researcher, they find it says something completely different?

Most of your buddies with their precious duh-grees most likely have no time for silly things like ozone or MMS, because there is no money in it - but they'll USE them if they or a family member gets sick.

People like that make me sick.

You have to rely on an unfounded opinion being promoted by notoriously ignorant "anti-believers" who *don't* used their heads as
a "methodology".

vaccines are safe and effective

mercury in dental amalgams is not harmful

failure to wash hands consistently in a hospital setting does not spread iatrogenic illness and unnecessary death

the earth is flat - everyone knows that, you idiot

Thank you for proving my point.

"Anything that's opposite from a carefully selected partial truth is the whole truth"
Sure, but only if you're a simpleton.

Engaing in a little intellectually dishonesty, are we? Portraying a comment I never made as if it were a quote (else why the quotes?), and then debunking the FAKE quote - nice.

Well, believe this:
If you have the flu, you have no right to go out in public, much less transport people around.
Doing so is irresponsible, if not illegal.

That you "can" is a dangerous oversight, not a right. [unless you are a mosquito with no choice but to bite and get flattened for it.]

This comment is what set me off on you Ode.

While I understand what you are saying, you are oh so very wrong - I have every right to go out in public, whether I have the flu or not, for one very important reason. Why? Because the only possible alternative is to grant thugs with guns the power to both declare the rules for determining who is and is not sick, and enforcing their whimsical decisions arbitrarily and at the point of a gun - in essence, to implement that same medical-fascist society that you said you had no desire to see.

THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO ENFORCE IT.

You can refuse a vaccination, but then, stay at home making it "your" problem and not many many other peoples problem.

I have a question...

If your vaccines are so effective - and you always make sure you and your family and those you know are vaccinated - why in the world would you be afraid of little ole simpletons like me who are not vaccinated?

Does no one see the inconsistency here?

In the case of "life threatening" pandemic, it will be illegal and you could "rightfully" get yourself shot if you leave home.

Ok - but you said the FLU earlier... lets stop changing gears from 1st to 50th, and stay on point.

If by chance the vaccination doesn't work, at least you've taken the steps than can be taken to prevent transmission, vs, no steps at all...or anti-steps.

I have no fear of any pandemic... I know that - as long as some government thug doesn't come along and drag me out of my home 'for my own good' and away from my ozone generator and herbs and CS generator, etc - and now MMS - I can beat pretty much anything that comes along.

That some vaccinations might not work "as advertised" doesn't mean none do, at least, "something".

But my something is far better than you're something - and has no NEGATIVE side effects to boot.

I'll betcha that when you see some people around you dropping like flies and some not, you'll be wondering why, then.

Nope - the ones that aren't dropping are most likely either like me, or have some natural immunity... definitely not some vaccine-immune-depressed zombie...


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