Frequency is also very improtant. Clarks zapper sends 10 mA this way, but at 20,000 hertz it is way above the frequent that is worst, which is I believe in the 50 to 60 hertz area.
Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Another factor: the route the juice takes through your body. Arm to arm > is worst for sending the heart into fibrillation or just stopping it. > James Osbourne, Holmes > > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 2:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: CS>colloidal gold > > James Sullivan wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > Seem to me that you're both right. > > > > Current and voltage are interdependent. At a given resistance, the > > amount of current that will flow is dependent on the voltage. You > > can't have one without the other. Keep in mind, too, that your body > > functions on microvoltages and microcurrents, so it wouldn't take much > > of either to mess you up. > > > > Later! > > > > List, > > Please forgive me if I have not made it clear that I am not attacking > anyone. > Electricity does not care who is right. It does not care who is a novice > or who > basically gets the drift. It will behave as it will behave. It is not a > subject of > opinion where everyone gets to find common ground and go home feeling good. > There > should be no feelings involved at all. Pointing out how electricity works > is not an > attack on anyone. > > This line of discussion was started after a well meaning warning to be > careful of a 100v > power supply. The warning is in order, especially since the person to whom > it was > directed seemed, according to previous posts, to have some questions as to > how > electricity works. I could be wrong about this, but the way his posts were > written made > me ass-u-me so. However, a person with some question about how electricity > works needs > to get very precise information for safety. > > Even experienced electricians tend to talk volts when discussing safety, > although in the > field they will be very aware of what kind of amperage a circuit can put > out, and judge > the danger of the system according to the amperage available. I have over > 20 years in > the field, and have been in the position to train many a person on the > safety aspects of > electricity. Rule number one: amperage kills. From a 48 volt system, a > 4800 volt > system, to a 50000 volt system, the voltage will not kill or injure, it is > how much > current that goes through you that matters. Anyone in my employ who does > not understand > that does not stay in my employ. Period. Safety matters. If I cannot > wipe the idea > out of someone's head that lower voltages are less dangerous, I cannot keep > him around. > All power supplies are dangerous, more dangerous as the amps available goes > up. Voltage > of the power supply matters less. I can give anyone a very serious blast > with 24 volts, > and I can also hold onto a 12000 volt line without a shock. Its the amps > that get ya. > > Yes, as mentioned by James above, there is a relationship between voltage, > resistance, > and current. But that is not the point immediately at hand. And neither > is this a > discussion on how many volts a neuron operates on. The point I was trying > to make is > when a person needs info on electricity, the info needs to be as correct as > possible. > The idea of respecting a higher voltage supply more than the lower voltage > supply is > exactly the thinking that gets people injured. That is exactly why most > electrical > mishaps occur with voltages at or below 120v, respect for the supply > lessens as the > voltage rating drops. > > So as a safety warning to all out there who do not have a good > understanding of basic > electricity: Respect all power supplies. If your respect for a power > supply goes up as > the voltage rating goes up, you are in danger of having less respect for > lower voltage > supplies, which is when accidents happen. Base your estimation of the > safety of the > system on how much current can flow through you, and for how long that > current can be > maintained, in case of an accident. (I have a 40 volt power supply > capable of > momentary 600 amps and continuous 200 amps. This, under the right > circumstances, can > ruin your day much more completely than a 12000 volt electric fencer.) If > you do not > understand that amperage does the damage, get out of the experimentation > business. If > you want to be able to get a feel for the potential for danger in a system, > study the > volts, resistance, current relationship (as mentioned by James above ) for > starters. > And don't assume the higher the voltage rating the more amps it can push > through you. A > higher voltage system may simply not have the current available to push > much through > you, and a lower voltage system, which has never shocked you, may have lots > of current > available via a large transformer and a capacitor bank, and may blast the > neighbor's kid > who is running around hot a sweaty, full of salt from eating salt and > vinegar potato > chips all day with salt and grease still on his hands [the kid is a LOT > more conductive > than you probably are]. Now his Mom is pissed. > > Mind the amps. > > Jim > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] -or- [email protected] > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] -or- [email protected] > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. 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