Evening Wayne,

Sorry, but you are very much mistaken on that.
On many of the old vacuum tube audio circuits I've worked on there are
"power supply transformers" and there are "output transformers".
Mix them up and sparks may fly! In fact, some amp circuits even use a
third transformer -- a much smaller one called a "choke", which is used
as an inductor. So I am accustomed to being specific about it, though
there is no output transformer or choke in a CS generator AFAIK. 

You can call me old and dated, or even pedantic, but the term is still
certainly correct. If you don't believe me, go check out the RCA
circuits from the 40s and 50s -- the original circuits that amplifiers 
made by legends like Leo Fender, Jim Marshall, and Dick Denny were
based upon. Also, the power supply usually consists of a bit more than
just the transformer, which is the main, but not only, component. 
There is often at least rectifier circuitry involved, and sometimes 
filtering capacitors as well in a quality design.

Cheers,
indi

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:33:40 -0600
Wayne Fugitt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Eveniong indi,
> 
>  >> At 10:25 PM 11/3/2008, you wrote:
> >A wall wart is a power supply transformer and mains plug in one
> >unit.
> 
>    You lost some creditability on that statement.
> 
>   You have been taking too many lessons from Neville.
> 
>   You used a term that is meaningless, and actually is contradictory 
> within itself.
>    ( power supply transformer )   Some are not in fact power supplies.
> 
>   If you consider the first two words to be a term, which they are,
>   and define, make clear, or enhance the other word, ...... it would 
> then be definite.
> Not sure you intended the phrase that way.
> 
>   Very much like the tern,  "aerobic oxygen".  Which is closer to 
> fuzzy logic than a
> meaningful term.
> 
> Then the wall wart is indefinite also, could mean different things.
> 
>     Could be your fingers slipped, and you left out a key word or two.
>     That is usually what happens to me.  <grin>
> 
>      You have not been on the list very long, unless you used a
> different name. Before then, I made the statement, I know about Wall
> Warts, and I have used
>     many, many thousands of them.  likely more anyone on the 
> list  Maybe even 10,000.
> 
>      They are much better than they used to be, many sizes and 
> ratings, and clearly labeled.
> 
>      My old redneck teacher said,  "Call a Spade, a Spade, and
> nothing else".
> 
>      Most wall warts are clearly labeled, and should be called what 
> they are,  not something
>      Indefinite.    Why not ?
> 
>    >>  mains plug in one unit.
> 
>         Having a hard time figuring out what that means.
> 
>      Wayne
> 
> Be nice to beginners, try not to confuse them by using indefinite
> terms, Some will be confused enough, when you use the exact right
> terms ===============================
>     
> 
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