Salt in distilled water will give a slight amount of cloudiness. I
suspect that it is the ground glass anti-caking compound that is
typically added to table salt that is going into suspension. The trick
is to use very little salt, no more than a small pinch. If you have
ionic silver above 1 ppm, the cloudiness is much more pronounced.
Marshall
Neville Munn wrote:
As an addition...I've just remembered the method for determining ionic
content, a centrifuge is required, as this is one thing I failed to
ask about at the time (mainly cos back then I didn't know that at the
time) I don't know if was used for my samples...I suspect not.
The salt test for ionic component doesn't add up to much for me either
as the Distilled Water I use (even though it may read zero on a meter)
still results in cloudyness, which obviously signifies something else
is still present in that water BEFORE I even start production
process, but that's something beyond my control I guess. Probly could
make the effort to seek out or produce purer water but I don't see a
need to be that concerned/precise or pedantic about it.
Didn't mean to take up too much of your time with my essays, and
appreciate your assistance Marshall, but I guess unless I have the
availability of additional analysis equipment on hand I'm content with
where I'm at for the moment...flaws and all praps <g>.
Thanks and Cheers
N.
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:25:50 -0500
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS Marshall Part 3.
>
> Can you tell me exactly how you are determining the total silver level,
> the ionic silver level, and the colloidal silver level? I do take issue
> with the notion that a colloid only contains particles that are over 1
> micron. Virtually none of good EIS is over that size. A colloid is a
> suspension of particles of any size that is not dissolved or in
> solution. As such, no filter paper is going to remove a significant
> number of them, that would require would be reverse osmosis.
>
> Marshall
>
> Neville Munn wrote:
> > Sincere apologies for stretching this out Marshall but just as an
example:
> >
> > One result...Total Ag (acidified HNO3)=23.5mg/l (clear solution)
> >
> > 12.0mg/l was soluble (filtered thru 0.45 micron paper), now ignore
the
> > filter part cos that doesn't mean a great deal to me, in fact it
means
> > nothing to me due to agglomeration of silver during filtering
process,
> > so I'd like to work on the soluble part.
> >
> > AAS was incorporated somewhere in this sample testing also.
> >
> > That 12.0mg/l soluble part would obviously contain ions and
particles,
> > and some, probly most...? would be well within the smallest size
which
> > is deemed a *must have size*, however, the larger ones, the ones that
> > STILL passed thru that filter, would have to still be bio-available.
> > I am not so much concerned with that larger particle component as the
> > other silver content will still be in abundance and still be somewhat
> > efficacious. Literature I have read states "for a substance to be
> > classified as a 'colloid' that substance should be no larger
> > than 1000nm or 1 micron in size". Now couple that with the fact that
> > I believe ALL the silver content falls WELL below that limit, and my
> > visual observation of NIL settlement, you can see where I get my idea
> > from, flawed as that may be praps, so if you can expand on all I have
> > noted here it could be of some assistance to me.
> >
> > If a suitable explanation requires considerable chemistry details and
> > equations then don't worry about it cos it would go straight over my
> > head, I'm just basically wanting to know if it's possible for you to
> > give me a SIMPLE reason for why my clear solution came back with such
> > a close balance of ions to particles, and why that result seems to be
> > at odds with some. Praps it's been said before at some time but if
> > it's in chemistry language it probly went in one ear and straight out
> > the other.
> >
> > I'll let you decide if a reply is worthy of the time and/or effort.
> >
> > N.
> >
> >
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