When people use EIS, they don't necessarily have the perfect lifestyle,
diet, habitat, supplement consumption or the ideal physiological
processes. To limit EIS usage to someone who does would probably exclude
everyone on the planet. So EIS usage has to be considered in the context
of "real life" people and not idealized conditions. It is my opinion
that if ideal conditions are needed for EIS to not cause argyria, then
EIS can cause argyria since those ideal conditions are unrealizable.
In the vein of seeing a glass half full or half empty, you say that you
have not seen any studies, etc. that conclusively demonstrates that EIS
can cause argyria. On the other hand, I too have studied the literature
and have not found anything that would substantiate why EIS, apparently
alone of all forms of silver, cannot cause argyria. I am aware of the
passing of silver ions through the mucosal tissues. Mike Monnet
estimates that at about 10% of the ionic content can be transported that
way. If you swallow EIS, who knows what compound the ionic silver forms
in the stomach? If the stomach is empty it is probably silver chloride
but what if food is also present? Then what compounds are formed and
transported into the blood?
I have no proof for the following, but I think that silver chloride is
formed in the stomach with EIS and that the silver chloride pretty much
passes through the body unchanged. That would explain why in the Altman
study the silver is eliminated primarily through the kidney whereas in
the studies on silver elimination, using various types of silver other
than EIS, silver elimination has always been shown to be primarily
through the liver. My guess is that, due to the low solubility of silver
chloride, most of the silver chloride exists as small particles in the
body and are filtered out by the kidney specifically because they are
small particles. From what I have gathered, large particles and silver
in solution are most likely filtered out through the liver by several
processes.
I have also heard it stated that the silver particles in EIS can also
act as a propalatic to prevent argyria. I don't have an understanding of
how that can be.
It may be from the above that much of the silver in EIS is not present
in the body in a form that deposits in the tissues but some will be and
if enough is used over time, argyria can happen.
I understand that you have a firm personal conviction regarding EIS and
argyria, but I think that a forum such as the silver list has to
consider EIS as being used by a wide variety of people, under differing
conditions and in various quantities due to the need of the individuals
condition. And that under those unknown circumstances the possibility of
argyria must be openly acknowledged.
Regards,
Steve N
From: Neville Munn [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: CS>Anecdotal Evidence and CS
[... I am somewhat surprised that such learned people on this List
maintain the suggestion that argyria is a possibility with the use of
EIS in it's purest form. I believe there are simply too many things
going against that proposition when one takes into account all the
unknowns in relation to product, an individuals lifestyle, diet,
habitat, supplement consumption, praps even medicinals etc etc etc. ...]
