So far my wife has taken 12 ounces of homemade CS (EIS) for about 10 months now to keep her Lyme in remission. The only thing grey about her is her hair :) Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com <http://www.lyme-resource.com/> You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams
_____ From: Norton, Steve [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CS>Anecdotal Evidence and CS One has to consider how the other person will use the EIS. Sure, if someone is going to take EIS for the flu or an ounce a day for a year or a quart a day for a couple months, I'd tell them they won't get argyria from that amount. But if someone is going to fight something like Lyme disease where the amounts could be high for an extended period of time (years), I would warn them. In some cases, the EIS might cure a debilitating illness and the risk might be worth it to the person. But I think they should know enough to make an informed decision in that case. - Steve N From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>Anecdotal Evidence and CS I don't understand why. Isn't argyria really rare? How many of us are on this list, and how many have argyria? It would be interesting to see the results, but I bet there aren't many! And given people's fears, I know for certain that if I told the people I know who are taking EIS that they could get argyria, (even if they only take the smallest amount) then they *wouldn't* take it, and would lose out on all the benefits. I don't think its worth this for such a remote possibility, especially as argyria is not life threatening and reversible. Also, I can't understand why if people start to get a tinge of colour, why they don't stop taking it? dee On 27 Jan 2010, at 17:05, Norton, Steve wrote: When people use EIS, they don't necessarily have the perfect lifestyle, diet, habitat, supplement consumption or the ideal physiological processes. To limit EIS usage to someone who does would probably exclude everyone on the planet. So EIS usage has to be considered in the context of "real life" people and not idealized conditions. It is my opinion that if ideal conditions are needed for EIS to not cause argyria, then EIS can cause argyria since those ideal conditions are unrealizable. In the vein of seeing a glass half full or half empty, you say that you have not seen any studies, etc. that conclusively demonstrates that EIS can cause argyria. On the other hand, I too have studied the literature and have not found anything that would substantiate why EIS, apparently alone of all forms of silver, cannot cause argyria. I am aware of the passing of silver ions through the mucosal tissues. Mike Monnet estimates that at about 10% of the ionic content can be transported that way. If you swallow EIS, who knows what compound the ionic silver forms in the stomach? If the stomach is empty it is probably silver chloride but what if food is also present? Then what compounds are formed and transported into the blood?
