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> Hi Ivan;

G'Day Bob,

> Thanks for the responce. I have printed it out so I can now
"loose it" in
> the files :)
> The spectrophotometer reads only the ionic portion. I guess
that I will have
> to ask Marshall to run through the digsetion process, as the
fumes are very
> hazardous.

Do you need to treat your CS in a specific manner to isolate the
ionic portion?

> I will set up to day and run your parameters, but I have a
question. If you
> product is totally ionic how can it be called colloidal silver
as a colloid
> is metal.

I'm not sure if I understand you here Bob. A colloid is simply a
description of a state wherein particles are distributed
thoughout a medium (solid or liquid) and the particles are of
size range (1 - 1000 nm) which is too small to be considered a
suspension and too large to be thought of as disolved. The
particles may or may not be metalic, and may be electrically
neutral or charged (ionic).
Ionic particles are simply atoms, molecules or particles which
have lost or gained electrons and are not electrically neutral.
Some people use the term ionic to mean disolved elements or
compounds (physics vs chemistry, organic chemistry vs inorganic
chemistry) which just causes confusion.
A totally ionic colloid, as far as I am concerned, is a colloid
composed of ions, be they single atoms or multiatomic, or a
mixture of both.

> In talking to my chemist friends nitirc acid will not dissolve
silver
> colloid unless one boils it dry and does some reconstituting
and
> normallizing (HELP).  Normally nitric acid will turn silver
black
> immediately and attack it very vigiorously, but not in the
colloidal state.

That is understandable if the colloid is ionic. Ag+ ions have
already been oxidised (lost an electron) and considerable energy
would be required to remove further electrons, so no reaction.
What is the object of reacting silver with nitric acid? Would
this not produce silver nitrate?

> How about some of you chem techies putting in about 3 cents
worth right
> about here?????
>
> Ivan, send your mail address off list as I would like to send
you some
> things.

[email protected]

> "Ole Bob"

Regards - Ivan.



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