----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ivan Anderson <[email protected]>
To: Silver-List <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: CS Problems


> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[email protected]>
> 
> > Hi Ivan;
> 
> G'Day Bob,
> 
> > Thanks for the responce. I have printed it out so I can now
> "loose it" in
> > the files :)
> > The spectrophotometer reads only the ionic portion. I guess
> that I will have
> > to ask Marshall to run through the digsetion process, as the
> fumes are very
> > hazardous.
> 
> Do you need to treat your CS in a specific manner to isolate the
> ionic portion?
> 
> > I will set up to day and run your parameters, but I have a
> question. If you
> > product is totally ionic how can it be called colloidal silver
> as a colloid
> > is metal.
> 
> I'm not sure if I understand you here Bob. A colloid is simply a
> description of a state wherein particles are distributed
> thoughout a medium (solid or liquid) and the particles are of
> size range (1 - 1000 nm) which is too small to be considered a
> suspension and too large to be thought of as disolved. The
> particles may or may not be metalic, and may be electrically
> neutral or charged (ionic).
> Ionic particles are simply atoms, molecules or particles which
> have lost or gained electrons and are not electrically neutral.
> Some people use the term ionic to mean disolved elements or
> compounds (physics vs chemistry, organic chemistry vs inorganic
> chemistry) which just causes confusion.
> A totally ionic colloid, as far as I am concerned, is a colloid
> composed of ions, be they single atoms or multiatomic, or a
> mixture of both.
> 
> > In talking to my chemist friends nitirc acid will not dissolve
> silver
> > colloid unless one boils it dry and does some reconstituting
> and
> > normallizing (HELP).  Normally nitric acid will turn silver
> black
> > immediately and attack it very vigiorously, but not in the
> colloidal state.
> 
> That is understandable if the colloid is ionic. Ag+ ions have
> already been oxidised (lost an electron) and considerable energy
> would be required to remove further electrons, so no reaction.
> What is the object of reacting silver with nitric acid? Would
> this not produce silver nitrate?
> 
> > How about some of you chem techies putting in about 3 cents
> worth right
> > about here?????
> >
> > Ivan, send your mail address off list as I would like to send
> you some
> > things.
> 
> [email protected]
> 
> > "Ole Bob"
> 
> Regards - Ivan.
> 
> 
> 
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