Thanks, Jaxi. It definitely went over my head :-) PT
________________________________ From: jaxi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 12:24:07 PM Subject: Re: CS>spider bite [zapper myth] His explanation went a wee bit over my head. Or I just need to read it again slower. What I do know is several people on the microelectricity group list have used it on spider and ant bites with good success. However, your bite seems to be resolving on its own so it might not really matter. Good luck, Jaxi On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:11 AM, PT Ferrance <[email protected]> wrote: So Ode, does it work or not? I have no itching. Only a purplish red pustule that seems to be getting lighter daily. >Thanks. >PT > > > > ________________________________ From: Ode Coyote <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 7:12:32 AM >Subject: Re: CS>spider bite [zapper myth] > >At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote: >> Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite.... or even poison >> ivy >>etc. >> >> Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire to sponges that have been >>mostened. Place the sponges on both sides of the bite for 30-60 seconds or >>longer so that this mild level of electricity runs through the bite spot. >> >> This will send trillions of electrons through the afflicted area and this >>changes the proteins causing the reaction to a form that does not cause a >>reaction. Problem solved.... in seconds. > >## Not true. >There are no free electrons in a liquid, it's all ionic *electro-chemical >transport* of electrons. >What happens is the electricity breaks down the salt content of blood into >Hypochlorous Acid [similar to MMS] and Sodium Hydroxide [Lye] at the >respective >poles of the battery leads and those highly reactive **chemicals** break down >the venom. >At high enough concentration, they can also burn the skin...so controlling the >rate at which they are produced compared to the rate that blood flow can >dilute >them is done by a combination of electrode area and current control. >That good ole "Current Density" thing again. >It's controlling the CURRENT draw that the caution about using more than 6 >volts >is about, but with a very small electrode contact area, short distance >between >and time..even 1.2 volts can result in a chemical burn. >But...you'll know it before it becomes significantly damaging as it's quite >uncomfortable and redness and itchiness will make you want to stop. >Switching the polarity neutralizes the respective electro chemicals and turns >them back into salt. [At a high switching rate, virtually no chemicals will >escape before they revert ] > >The nerves use highly specified electro-chemical reactions that occur much >much >faster than the salt reaction..the "jolt" But STILL no electrons unless the >current and voltage is high enough to produce a hot plasma channel. [Lightning >strike] > >Ode > > >> For more info, there are online discussions and yahoo groups such as >>micro-electricity germ-killer. These sites have some cautions.... such as >>a >>prohibition against putting a lead in an open sore or abrasion, and also >>against >>the dangers of using more than 6 volts. > > >## That bunch may know a lot about procedure, but little to nothing about how >it all works and what is actually going on. >The "hows", sure..the "whys" NO clue. >It's the very same thing as running a CS generator only with different ionic >elements due to the different electrolyte and electrode composition. >In the case of making CS with pure water and pure Silver , it's Hydroxyls [OH >-] >and Silver ions [Ag + ] [with Hydrogen and Oxygen gas as byproducts ] >Using inert electrodes in Sodium salt water, it's Hypochlorous Acid and >Sodium >Hydroxide. [with Hydrogen and Oxygen gas as byproducts ] > >The blood, of course, also has other Chlorine based salts in it as well, so >traces of Calcium Hydroxide etc are likely. > >Inserting a lead into a sore or abrasion greatly increases the current in a >very small space which increases the likelihood of a localized chemical burn >and >if the lead isn't an inert metal such as Platinum, metallic ions can come into >play. [An overload of copper can play havoc with the chemistry of nerves ] >But you CAN insert an inert metal lead into a cancer tumor with close >attention >paid to current delivery and change the PH enough to kill the cancer cells >without much damage to the healthy ones. > >Ode > > >> Best of luck. >> >> > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ > >Unsubscribe: ><mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > >Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:[email protected]> >List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:[email protected]> > > >
