Ode you make my brain hurt sometimes and I generally think of myself as being an intelligent person.
So - you are talking zilla with a meter? If so, that has been the current talk of the microelectricity group - adding a meter. I've been too lazy to go buy one and still just switch polarities and watch the clock. Jaxi On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Ode Coyote <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I suspect that it does work and is useful for many things. > *That* it works isn't any part of it...only *how* it works. > But *how* calls into question some of the mo fancier designs that use > higher frequencies in a process that can't respond to change anywhere near > that fast. > > I estimate that it takes between 10 and 20 seconds to complete the > neutralization period required to reverse the electro-chemical production > process when polarity is changed at the low voltages and currents that won't > burn your nervous system out. > So a polarity reversing 4hz system is a wanker that won't do much other > than make your wallet a bit lighter and fingers twitch. > > An elephant can push trees over or pick a dandelion, thus has much useful > and controllable power .....but it isn't very good at tap dancing. > > IMO The Godzilla and some observation based common sense seat of the pants > operation parameters can't be beat...though, the control of those parameters > can be made more convenient and automatic requiring less attention over the > treatment period. > ie: It's easier to control current delivery with a potentiometer than it > is to change the conductivity of the electrolyte. > It's easier to flip a switch than it is to disconnect and reconnect > electrode leads. > It's more convenient to set a timer than it is to watch a clock. > > ode > > > At 09:11 AM 1/5/2011 -0800, you wrote: > >> So Ode, does it work or not? I have no itching. Only a purplish red >> pustule that seems to be getting lighter daily. >> Thanks. >> PT >> >> >> From: Ode Coyote <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 7:12:32 AM >> Subject: Re: CS>spider bite [zapper myth] >> >> At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote: >> > Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite.... or even >> poison ivy etc. >> > >> > Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire to sponges that have >> been mostened. Place the sponges on both sides of the bite for 30-60 >> seconds or longer so that this mild level of electricity runs through the >> bite spot. >> > >> > This will send trillions of electrons through the afflicted area and >> this changes the proteins causing the reaction to a form that does not cause >> a reaction. Problem solved.... in seconds. >> >> ## Not true. >> There are no free electrons in a liquid, it's all ionic *electro-chemical >> transport* of electrons. >> What happens is the electricity breaks down the salt content of blood into >> Hypochlorous Acid [similar to MMS] and Sodium Hydroxide [Lye] at the >> respective poles of the battery leads and those highly reactive >> **chemicals** break down the venom. >> At high enough concentration, they can also burn the skin...so controlling >> the rate at which they are produced compared to the rate that blood flow can >> dilute them is done by a combination of electrode area and current control. >> That good ole "Current Density" thing again. >> It's controlling the CURRENT draw that the caution about using more than 6 >> volts is about, but with a very small electrode contact area, short >> distance between and time..even 1.2 volts can result in a chemical burn. >> But...you'll know it before it becomes significantly damaging as it's >> quite uncomfortable and redness and itchiness will make you want to stop. >> Switching the polarity neutralizes the respective electro chemicals and >> turns them back into salt. [At a high switching rate, virtually no chemicals >> will escape before they revert ] >> >> The nerves use highly specified electro-chemical reactions that occur much >> much faster than the salt reaction..the "jolt" But STILL no electrons >> unless the current and voltage is high enough to produce a hot plasma >> channel. [Lightning strike] >> >> Ode >> >> >> > For more info, there are online discussions and yahoo groups such as >> micro-electricity germ-killer. These sites have some cautions.... such as >> a prohibition against putting a lead in an open sore or abrasion, and also >> against the dangers of using more than 6 volts. >> >> >> ## That bunch may know a lot about procedure, but little to nothing about >> how it all works and what is actually going on. >> The "hows", sure..the "whys" NO clue. >> It's the very same thing as running a CS generator only with different >> ionic elements due to the different electrolyte and electrode composition. >> In the case of making CS with pure water and pure Silver , it's Hydroxyls >> [OH -] and Silver ions [Ag + ] [with Hydrogen and Oxygen gas as byproducts ] >> Using inert electrodes in Sodium salt water, it's Hypochlorous Acid and >> Sodium Hydroxide. [with Hydrogen and Oxygen gas as byproducts ] >> >> The blood, of course, also has other Chlorine based salts in it as well, >> so traces of Calcium Hydroxide etc are likely. >> >> Inserting a lead into a sore or abrasion greatly increases the current in >> a very small space which increases the likelihood of a localized chemical >> burn and if the lead isn't an inert metal such as Platinum, metallic ions >> can come into play. [An overload of copper can play havoc with the chemistry >> of nerves ] >> But you CAN insert an inert metal lead into a cancer tumor with close >> attention paid to current delivery and change the PH enough to kill the >> cancer cells without much damage to the healthy ones. >> >> Ode >> >> >> > Best of luck. >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> Unsubscribe: >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:[email protected]> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >
