I suspect that it does work and is useful for many things.
*That* it works isn't any part of it...only *how* it works.
But *how* calls into question some of the mo fancier designs that use higher frequencies in a process that can't respond to change anywhere near that fast.

I estimate that it takes between 10 and 20 seconds to complete the neutralization period required to reverse the electro-chemical production process when polarity is changed at the low voltages and currents that won't burn your nervous system out. So a polarity reversing 4hz system is a wanker that won't do much other than make your wallet a bit lighter and fingers twitch.

An elephant can push trees over or pick a dandelion, thus has much useful and controllable power .....but it isn't very good at tap dancing.

IMO The Godzilla and some observation based common sense seat of the pants operation parameters can't be beat...though, the control of those parameters can be made more convenient and automatic requiring less attention over the treatment period. ie: It's easier to control current delivery with a potentiometer than it is to change the conductivity of the electrolyte. It's easier to flip a switch than it is to disconnect and reconnect electrode leads.
It's more convenient to set a timer than it is to watch a clock.

ode


At 09:11 AM 1/5/2011 -0800, you wrote:
So Ode, does it work or not? I have no itching. Only a purplish red pustule that seems to be getting lighter daily.
Thanks.
PT


From: Ode Coyote <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 7:12:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>spider bite [zapper myth]

At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote:
> Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite.... or even poison ivy etc.
>
> Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire to sponges that have been mostened. Place the sponges on both sides of the bite for 30-60 seconds or longer so that this mild level of electricity runs through the bite spot.
>
> This will send trillions of electrons through the afflicted area and this changes the proteins causing the reaction to a form that does not cause a reaction. Problem solved.... in seconds.

## Not true.
There are no free electrons in a liquid, it's all ionic *electro-chemical transport* of electrons. What happens is the electricity breaks down the salt content of blood into Hypochlorous Acid [similar to MMS] and Sodium Hydroxide [Lye] at the respective poles of the battery leads and those highly reactive **chemicals** break down the venom. At high enough concentration, they can also burn the skin...so controlling the rate at which they are produced compared to the rate that blood flow can dilute them is done by a combination of electrode area and current control.
That good ole "Current Density" thing again.
It's controlling the CURRENT draw that the caution about using more than 6 volts is about, but with a very small electrode contact area, short distance between and time..even 1.2 volts can result in a chemical burn. But...you'll know it before it becomes significantly damaging as it's quite uncomfortable and redness and itchiness will make you want to stop. Switching the polarity neutralizes the respective electro chemicals and turns them back into salt. [At a high switching rate, virtually no chemicals will escape before they revert ]

The nerves use highly specified electro-chemical reactions that occur much much faster than the salt reaction..the "jolt" But STILL no electrons unless the current and voltage is high enough to produce a hot plasma channel. [Lightning strike]

Ode


> For more info, there are online discussions and yahoo groups such as micro-electricity germ-killer. These sites have some cautions.... such as a prohibition against putting a lead in an open sore or abrasion, and also against the dangers of using more than 6 volts.


## That bunch may know a lot about procedure, but little to nothing about how it all works and what is actually going on.
The "hows", sure..the "whys"  NO clue.
It's the very same thing as running a CS generator only with different ionic elements due to the different electrolyte and electrode composition. In the case of making CS with pure water and pure Silver , it's Hydroxyls [OH -] and Silver ions [Ag + ] [with Hydrogen and Oxygen gas as byproducts ] Using inert electrodes in Sodium salt water, it's Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide. [with Hydrogen and Oxygen gas as byproducts ]

The blood, of course, also has other Chlorine based salts in it as well, so traces of Calcium Hydroxide etc are likely.

Inserting a lead into a sore or abrasion greatly increases the current in a very small space which increases the likelihood of a localized chemical burn and if the lead isn't an inert metal such as Platinum, metallic ions can come into play. [An overload of copper can play havoc with the chemistry of nerves ] But you CAN insert an inert metal lead into a cancer tumor with close attention paid to current delivery and change the PH enough to kill the cancer cells without much damage to the healthy ones.

Ode


> Best of luck.
>
>


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