The difference is between electrocuting errant proteins in a
liquid...which can't happen unless the voltage and current is quite high,
burning everything in its path.
and
Producing corrosive electro chemicals to attack the chemical composition
of venoms at a rate that may challenge but not significantly damage the
less reactive elements that compose your bodily makeup and also produces
its own antidotes.
Injecting Chlorox into the bite may destroy the venom, but you can't remove
the bleach in a few seconds after it's done the job by flicking a switch.
Ode
At 11:24 AM 1/5/2011 -0600, you wrote:
His explanation went a wee bit over my head. Or I just need to read it
again slower.
What I do know is several people on the microelectricity group list have
used it on spider and ant bites with good success.
However, your bite seems to be resolving on its own so it might not really
matter.
Good luck,
Jaxi
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:11 AM, PT Ferrance
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
So Ode, does it work or not? I have no itching. Only a purplish red
pustule that seems to be getting lighter daily.
Thanks.
PT
From: Ode Coyote <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 7:12:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>spider bite [zapper myth]
At 08:02 AM 1/4/2011 -0800, you wrote:
> Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite.... or even
poison ivy etc.
>
> Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire to sponges that have
been mostened. Place the sponges on both sides of the bite for 30-60
seconds or longer so that this mild level of electricity runs through the
bite spot.
>
> This will send trillions of electrons through the afflicted area and
this changes the proteins causing the reaction to a form that does not
cause a reaction. Problem solved.... in seconds.
## Not true.
There are no free electrons in a liquid, it's all ionic *electro-chemical
transport* of electrons.
What happens is the electricity breaks down the salt content of blood into
Hypochlorous Acid [similar to MMS] and Sodium Hydroxide [Lye] at the
respective poles of the battery leads and those highly reactive
**chemicals** break down the venom.
At high enough concentration, they can also burn the skin...so controlling
the rate at which they are produced compared to the rate that blood flow
can dilute them is done by a combination of electrode area and current control.
That good ole "Current Density" thing again.
It's controlling the CURRENT draw that the caution about using more than 6
volts is about, but with a very small electrode contact area, short
distance between and time..even 1.2 volts can result in a chemical burn.
But...you'll know it before it becomes significantly damaging as it's
quite uncomfortable and redness and itchiness will make you want to stop.
Switching the polarity neutralizes the respective electro chemicals and
turns them back into salt. [At a high switching rate, virtually no
chemicals will escape before they revert ]
The nerves use highly specified electro-chemical reactions that occur much
much faster than the salt reaction..the "jolt" But STILL no electrons
unless the current and voltage is high enough to produce a hot plasma
channel. [Lightning strike]
Ode
> For more info, there are online discussions and yahoo groups such as
micro-electricity germ-killer. These sites have some cautions.... such
as a prohibition against putting a lead in an open sore or abrasion, and
also against the dangers of using more than 6 volts.
## That bunch may know a lot about procedure, but little to nothing about
how it all works and what is actually going on.
The "hows", sure..the "whys" NO clue.
It's the very same thing as running a CS generator only with different
ionic elements due to the different electrolyte and electrode composition.
In the case of making CS with pure water and pure Silver , it's Hydroxyls
[OH -] and Silver ions [Ag + ] [with Hydrogen and Oxygen gas as byproducts ]
Using inert electrodes in Sodium salt water, it's Hypochlorous Acid and
Sodium Hydroxide. [with Hydrogen and Oxygen gas as byproducts ]
The blood, of course, also has other Chlorine based salts in it as well,
so traces of Calcium Hydroxide etc are likely.
Inserting a lead into a sore or abrasion greatly increases the current in
a very small space which increases the likelihood of a localized chemical
burn and if the lead isn't an inert metal such as Platinum, metallic ions
can come into play. [An overload of copper can play havoc with the
chemistry of nerves ]
But you CAN insert an inert metal lead into a cancer tumor with close
attention paid to current delivery and change the PH enough to kill the
cancer cells without much damage to the healthy ones.
Ode
> Best of luck.
>
>
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