On 9/13/2011 11:06 PM, Mike Monett wrote:
   "Jason R Eaton"<[email protected]>  wrote:

   [...]

   >>  At some  point, the ions combine to form silver  hydroxide, which
   >>  is inert,  insoluble,  and has no  antibacterial  qualities. This
   >>  gets distributed deep inside your lungs, and could have  the same
   >>  effect as asbestos in harming the lungs.

   >  This is  one of the most ridiculous statements I've read  in quite
   >  awhile.

   >  As an  individual   with   over   ten   years  of  experience with
   >  nebulization, this  type of fear-mongering is  unbecoming  of true
   >  intelligence.

   [...]

   Your experience  would  mean more if you  had  some  basic chemistry
   knowledge to  tell the difference between junk science  and valuable
   information. You  cannot  tell  what  silver  hydroxide  will  do to
   tissues in  the  long term. You have no knowledge  or  experience to
   say.
I do have a chemistry background, and have studied the different forms of ionic silver extensively. Ionic silver is a combination of silver oxide and silver hydroxide. They each have a solubility of approximately 13 ppm at room temperature, slightly higher at body temperature. Ionic silver does not "turn" into silver hydroxide, it is that to start with. If you start with either one in water, you will end up with a combination of the two after it dissolves. The reaction is:

Ag2O + H2O <=> 2Ag(OH)2

Silver hydroxide does not exist in a non-ionic form. If you take silver hydroxide solution and let the water evaporate, what will remain will be silver oxide.
   The reason  asbestos  is so deadly is the white  blood  cells cannot
   digest them like they can other material they find in the body.
   They kill  pathogens by encasing them in vacules,  and administering
   H2O2 and other chemicals to kill the pathogen.
I am not sure who they is. The lungs oxidize or reduce (organic) particles in the lungs with H2O2, forming something soluble which can then be absorbed into the lung tissue.
   However, by  itself, H2O2 has no effect on AgOH.

That is not true at all. H2O2 plu Ag(OH)2 (Ag tends to have a valence of two, thus HO which has a valence of one must be doubled up), reacts with H2O2 quite readily. But for Silver Hydroxide, it is not necessary since silver hydroxide has solubility of around 13 ppm anyway. The reaction of hydrogen peroxide and silver hydroxide I have posted here a number of times is:

2Ag(OH) + H2O2 = 2Ag + 2H2O + O2 yielding a silver particle typically made up of two atoms of silver which is easily absorbed by the lung tissue.

But you also have the reverse reaction:

2Ag + H2O2 = 2AgO + H2O

These are the reactions that occur if you add a few drops of H2O2 to EIS, something many of us have been doing for years.

So the white blood
   cells cannot  get  rid of it. It stays around,  and  who  knows what
   irritation it causes to the tissue? You certainly don't know.
Before reacting with any H2O2 it is soluble, so why would it stay around? Even if it did react with H2O2, colloidal silver is easily absorbed into tissues, that is how taking it subliminally works.
   So I would not be so confident as you seem to be.

   >>  The main  benefit  from nebulizing is  the  sublingual absorption
   >>  that occurs as the cs fog is deposited on the mucous membranes.
That as well as getting to any pathogens in the lungs directly, whereas they might not be exposed to CS that is simply in the blood.

Marshall


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