t 11:43 PM 10/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
>It has always been acid. I posted a couple of months ago that all
>  cancer patients are highly alkalized and suffer from a loss of
>  appetite. I suggested that anyone with cancer should start taking
>  hydrochloric acid by mouth or IV. preferably IV. I am 87 and have
>  been taking unpasturized apple cider vinegar daily for as long as
>  I can remember. I went 50 years without seeing a doctor. Vinegar
>  is known to kill worms instantly, since most parasites are a form
>  of worm, I have never had any symptons of parasites. You can't tell
>  by Ph if you are alkalized or not because a lot of toxins and waste
>  matter are different forms of acid and give a false reading. 
>  Hydrochloric acid is the only acid the body produces.
>  Hope this helps.
>  Ron  
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Arrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!! (That's not directed at you Ron...just at my 
own confusion. I have much respect for 87 years and healthy! And I sure 
would likesome clarity on the this ph puzzle.)

So Ron...why do all the cancer patients drink alkaline water and 
take coral calcium? (I have read they start out too acid but in 
the final stages become too alkaline.)

What about books like ALKALIZE OR DIE? 

Please tell on what you base what you are saying? And on what 
do you base your recommendation of hyrocloric acid? 

I have a condition...diagnosed as Chronic Fatigue, Gulf War Syndrome
...i call it..."who knows"... 

I started drinking apple cider vinegar...felt better for 3 months
...then my health dropped completely and I didn't feel better till 
I STOPPED the apple cider vinegar. So I figured maybe I got my ph 
briefly in balance and then threw if out in the other direction.
>  
Please share more about your theories and on what they are based.

Oh..are you familiar with the Moerman Diet? Dr. Moerman agrees with you...

~^^V^^~

 At 11:00 PM 10/6/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Velique, Dennis,
>
>Thanks for the responses. 
>
>Dennis, I like your use of the term "medical dowsing". At least that
>puts us in a familiar framework. There's anecdotal evidence of 
>dowsing (for ground water) actually working for some individuals. And 
>*you* put it clearly in the realm of the subconscious with an 
>admitted assumption of possible telepathy.
>
>At least it's clear where you are standing, and if I'm still
>skeptical, I cannot accuse you of confusing things with flowery
>language or trying to elevate your words to the level of
>pseudo-scientific jargon.
>
>And your example of sexing chicks, Velique, eloquently explains our 
>dilemma. 
>
>Thank you both.
>
>Be well,
>
>Mike D.
>
>> I used to be  a student of Dr Parcells work. Yes it does work 
>> when in the right hands. The problem with medical dowsing is its
>> equivocal nature. The pendulum allows one to communicate with the
>> subconscious mind (low self) and obtain answers to questions. The
>> seat of language is the middle ( conscious) self. The low self
>> handles the emotions, memory, and telepathy. The problems lie in
>> getting the left brain linear, rational, middle self (conscious
>> mind) to step aside, and also to gain the full cooperation of the
>> low (subconscious) self.
>> 
>> Dennis Lipter
>> 
>> Vilik Rapheles wrote:
>> 
>> > The fact that people get good results from some of
>> > >these things is compelling. It's just so damned tiring to have to
>> > >wade through the nonsense to get to it, though.
>> > ~~~~~~~~
>> > Mike...
>> >
>> >    Excellent critique...and thank you for doing the wading for me! (My
>> > hipboots need a little patching...<g>)
>> >
>> >    Well...I see two things. One is that Dr. Parcell lived to a ripe
age (is
>> > she
>> > still living?) in a healthy condition. She sensed or intuited or somehow
>> > figured
>> > a lot out about health, specifically her own health.  She knew something!
>> >
>> >   However...can it be put into language and can it be reproduced? Did she
>> > found a
>> > system to translate what she knew to others?
>> >
>> >    I read an article about a place...China?...where people sex baby
chicks
>> > before there is any sign of their sex. They are almost always right. They
>> > cannot explain
>> > what they do...the only way they can train people is to have them sit
right
>> > there while they do it...until the new person picks it up "by osmosis"...
>> > and the new person can't explain it either!
>> >
>> >    So I think there's a lot of information out there that isn't science
>> > (cannot
>> > be proven by scientific analysis)  but that is true, at least
relatively and
>> > subjectively and situationally true. And I think if I or you could have
>> > studied directly with Dr. P, we might have learned to "sex the chick"
...or
>> > pick up the understandings Dr. P had.
>> >
>> >   But...if I or you swing a pendulum over food after we read a book, does
>> > that work?
>> >
>> >   Sigh...
>> >
>> >   I guess I'm a little weary too. So many ideas...so little time...
>> >
>> > ~^^V^^~
>
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