Vilik Rapheles wrote:
>
> t 11:43 PM 10/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >It has always been acid. I posted a couple of months ago that all
> > cancer patients are highly alkalized and suffer from a loss of
> > appetite. I suggested that anyone with cancer should start taking
> > hydrochloric acid by mouth or IV. preferably IV. I am 87 and have
> > been taking unpasturized apple cider vinegar daily for as long as
> > I can remember. I went 50 years without seeing a doctor. Vinegar
> > is known to kill worms instantly, since most parasites are a form
> > of worm, I have never had any symptons of parasites. You can't tell
> > by Ph if you are alkalized or not because a lot of toxins and waste
> > matter are different forms of acid and give a false reading.
> > Hydrochloric acid is the only acid the body produces.
> > Hope this helps.
> > Ron
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Arrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!! (That's not directed at you Ron...just at my
> own confusion. I have much respect for 87 years and healthy! And I sure
> would likesome clarity on the this ph puzzle.)
>
> So Ron...why do all the cancer patients drink alkaline water and
> take coral calcium? (I have read they start out too acid but in
> the final stages become too alkaline.)
I can only go by my own experience. It should be obvious that if they
can't eat food because they don't have enough HCL in their stomach
that they are over alkalized, regardless of their Ph reading.
> What about books like ALKALIZE OR DIE?
Some authors copy other authors or common beliefs and expand on them
I have found over the years that a lot of common beliefs are false.
Take for instance the common belief that for heartburn you should
take an antiacid. Heartburn, called acid indigeation is actually
an over alkalized condition (the food is fermenting) take vinegar
and the heartburn disappears like magic. Another false belief is
that when women give birth they should be on their back. Actually
they should be should be kneeling. They would suffer far less.
>
> Please tell on what you base what you are saying? And on what
> do you base your recommendation of hyrocloric acid?
> HCL is the only acid the body manufactures. The white blood cells
require strong HCL to be healthy for a strong immune system, a weak
HCL is a weak immune system. When a weak HCL is injected into the
blood the amount of white cells zoom.
> I have a condition...diagnosed as Chronic Fatigue, Gulf War Syndrome
> ...i call it..."who knows"...
>
> I started drinking apple cider vinegar...felt better for 3 months
> ...then my health dropped completely and I didn't feel better till
> I STOPPED the apple cider vinegar. So I figured maybe I got my ph
> briefly in balance and then threw if out in the other direction.
Vinegar usually brings the Ph into balance. The beneficial effects
of vinegar are not due solely to it's acidity. The mother in vinegar
is said to be in the same family as penecilan, without the side
effects. FWIW some religious people think it's remarkable curative
powers are due to the fact it was the last thing to touch Jesus'
lips on the cross. Before I discovered CS I used vinegar for all
kinds of infections. It stops diaherra in 5 minutes and upset
stomach.
> Please share more about your theories and on what they are based.
>
> Oh..are you familiar with the Moerman Diet? Dr. Moerman agrees with you...
No, I am not familiar with this diet. I hope this answers some of your
questions. I could go on, but I have over 200 emails to wade thru.
Don't take anybody's word for anything, listen to both sides and try
the one that sounds logical before you let it in to your belief system
Warmest regards,
Ron
> ~^^V^^~
>
> At 11:00 PM 10/6/99 +0000, you wrote:
> >Velique, Dennis,
> >
> >Thanks for the responses.
> >
> >Dennis, I like your use of the term "medical dowsing". At least that
> >puts us in a familiar framework. There's anecdotal evidence of
> >dowsing (for ground water) actually working for some individuals. And
> >*you* put it clearly in the realm of the subconscious with an
> >admitted assumption of possible telepathy.
> >
> >At least it's clear where you are standing, and if I'm still
> >skeptical, I cannot accuse you of confusing things with flowery
> >language or trying to elevate your words to the level of
> >pseudo-scientific jargon.
> >
> >And your example of sexing chicks, Velique, eloquently explains our
> >dilemma.
> >
> >Thank you both.
> >
> >Be well,
> >
> >Mike D.
> >
> >> I used to be a student of Dr Parcells work. Yes it does work
> >> when in the right hands. The problem with medical dowsing is its
> >> equivocal nature. The pendulum allows one to communicate with the
> >> subconscious mind (low self) and obtain answers to questions. The
> >> seat of language is the middle ( conscious) self. The low self
> >> handles the emotions, memory, and telepathy. The problems lie in
> >> getting the left brain linear, rational, middle self (conscious
> >> mind) to step aside, and also to gain the full cooperation of the
> >> low (subconscious) self.
> >>
> >> Dennis Lipter
> >>
> >> Vilik Rapheles wrote:
> >>
> >> > The fact that people get good results from some of
> >> > >these things is compelling. It's just so damned tiring to have to
> >> > >wade through the nonsense to get to it, though.
> >> > ~~~~~~~~
> >> > Mike...
> >> >
> >> > Excellent critique...and thank you for doing the wading for me! (My
> >> > hipboots need a little patching...<g>)
> >> >
> >> > Well...I see two things. One is that Dr. Parcell lived to a ripe
> age (is
> >> > she
> >> > still living?) in a healthy condition. She sensed or intuited or somehow
> >> > figured
> >> > a lot out about health, specifically her own health. She knew something!
> >> >
> >> > However...can it be put into language and can it be reproduced? Did she
> >> > found a
> >> > system to translate what she knew to others?
> >> >
> >> > I read an article about a place...China?...where people sex baby
> chicks
> >> > before there is any sign of their sex. They are almost always right. They
> >> > cannot explain
> >> > what they do...the only way they can train people is to have them sit
> right
> >> > there while they do it...until the new person picks it up "by osmosis"...
> >> > and the new person can't explain it either!
> >> >
> >> > So I think there's a lot of information out there that isn't science
> >> > (cannot
> >> > be proven by scientific analysis) but that is true, at least
> relatively and
> >> > subjectively and situationally true. And I think if I or you could have
> >> > studied directly with Dr. P, we might have learned to "sex the chick"
> ...or
> >> > pick up the understandings Dr. P had.
> >> >
> >> > But...if I or you swing a pendulum over food after we read a book, does
> >> > that work?
> >> >
> >> > Sigh...
> >> >
> >> > I guess I'm a little weary too. So many ideas...so little time...
> >> >
> >> > ~^^V^^~
> >
> >[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> >[[email protected] ]
> >[Speaking only for myself... ]
> >
> >
> >--
> >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.
> >
> >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to:
> >[email protected] -or- [email protected]
> >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line.
> >
> >To post, address your message to: [email protected]
> >
> >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
